NOAA satellite 2-hour west coast timelapse animation really gives a sense of the scale of the smoke: https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G1...
Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
ideologues are able to turn any event into evidence for their perspective. I'm not a climate change denier, I just agree with you that the real issue is humankind's fire suppression. There are a bunch of things that could be done, but no one is happy to support it. Selective logging, brush clearing, not putting multi-million dollar homes in the forest. etc.
was the same in California 20 years ago. Didn't have fires like this. What's changed?
More people, more fire suppression.
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#33It seems clear that the Western US is going to burn until the fuel is gone in enough places that megafires can't develop easily. It's like ecological herd immunity. Most affected states are still in the reactive firefighting mode rather than thinking how to get ahead of the curve by removing a century of fuel accumulated from determined fire suppression. There's no question rising temperatures make things worse, but…
It's not just fire suppression. We've got a trifecta of drought, bark beetle infestation and fire suppression (aka, tree density).[0] It's the killer combo.
[0]https://www.fs.fed.us/psw/topics/tree_mortality/california/i...
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#34Corvallis, OR, is one of the worst places right now. Orange skies and ash everywhere. It's working its way indoors and I can see black deposits collecting in my sink.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
ideologues are able to turn any event into evidence for their perspective. I'm not a climate change denier, I just agree with you that the real issue is humankind's fire suppression. There are a bunch of things that could be done, but no one is happy to support it. Selective logging, brush clearing, not putting multi-million dollar homes in the forest. etc.
was the same in California 20 years ago. Didn't have fires like this. What's changed?
It was 20 years less of neglect. Not sure when we have stop doing controlled burns in the name of keeping air quality good. It was more than 20 years ago.
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#36Strong blade runner vibes going on today. It's so odd to see people going about their day as if normal when there is nothing normal about today. Was outside near Lake Merritt and there are people jogging and having coffee. Pure dystopia.
Why should they not being doing that? Would you prefer they just freak out? At least in SF, the marine layer is keeping the smoke above where people are so it's not unsafe to be out.
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#37Basically nullifying every air pollution effort for years. Reducing CA wildfire should be environmentalist number 1 priority.
Wouldn't the proactive solution of controlled burns would also pollute the air? Is there another solution?
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#38The photos in the article are not enhanced for dramatic effect. This is really how it looks like in person. Hopefully this will finally hit some people hard and we'll reverse the decades of urban sprawl and environmental mismanagement. In all likelihood, it will be forgotten as soon as the blue sky returns.
My phone camera can't really even capture the effect. The color correction algorithm doesn't think the sky can be this color.
I've been capturing pictures through the window that are half indoors, half outdoors. This makes the color correction algorithm stop trying to get rid of the orange.
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#39Basically nullifying every air pollution effort for years. Reducing CA wildfire should be environmentalist number 1 priority.
Sacramento and Newsome won't be doing anything at all to reduce wildfires, just like Brown before him. No controlled burns. No dead tree removal. No fire breaks. Nothing.
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#40Strong blade runner vibes going on today. It's so odd to see people going about their day as if normal when there is nothing normal about today. Was outside near Lake Merritt and there are people jogging and having coffee. Pure dystopia.
> It's so odd to see people going about their day as if normal when there is nothing normal about today.
What should they be doing instead?