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Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Re: Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Post by acdha »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #26
acdha wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a difference between not stopping genocide and giving money and recognition to the people conducting it. The actual point of the criticism is more nuanced than what you quoted: > social media users noticed that in the credits Disney thanked a number of government entities in Xinjiang, including the public security bureau in the city of Turpan and the "publicity department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Regio…

Turpan [1] has striking landscape with a very 'frontier' feel, and has a history to match. It's a pretty good location for filming such a movie. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpan

I wouldn’t disagree. My point is that it’s not unreasonable to criticize a company which publicly thanks the CPC security forces, just as it’s not unfair for companies to get tons of flack for conditions in their factories or fields.

Re: Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Post by john-shaffer »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #30
falcolas wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll stick to my outrage of the casts' attitudes towards Hong Kong and the outrageous $30 rental rate. I think that's more than enough, though this particular story certainly doesn't change my mind.

The $30 rental rate is not 'outrageous'. It's a commercial decision, perhaps an experiment, taking into account the current special circumstances: How much is a family willing to pay to see this in a cinema? It's more than $30 in total, so as they cannot do or decide not to go, let's then watch this movie for actually less than that but more than for a movie that is passed in release date. The 'market' will decide. A…

In 1861, would "taking note and understanding Confederate people views on Confederate issues" have been more productive?

You can justify absolutely anything if you try hard enough. It's harder to justify the policies of a racist, genocidal government like the CCP, but calling them "Chinese issues" seems to work for some.

Re: Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Post by mytailorisrich »

acdha wrote: post #31
mytailorisrich wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turpan [1] has striking landscape with a very 'frontier' feel, and has a history to match. It's a pretty good location for filming such a movie. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpan

I wouldn’t disagree. My point is that it’s not unreasonable to criticize a company which publicly thanks the CPC security forces, just as it’s not unfair for companies to get tons of flack for conditions in their factories or fields.

When you go to film somewhere you may need the local authorities to facilitate it. It's normal professional courtesy to thank them the film's credits.

Why should they be criticised for showing normal professional courtesy, I don't know....

Re: Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Post by mytailorisrich »

john-shaffer wrote: post #32
mytailorisrich wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The $30 rental rate is not 'outrageous'. It's a commercial decision, perhaps an experiment, taking into account the current special circumstances: How much is a family willing to pay to see this in a cinema? It's more than $30 in total, so as they cannot do or decide not to go, let's then watch this movie for actually less than that but more than for a movie that is passed in release date. The 'market' will decide. A…

In 1861, would "taking note and understanding Confederate people views on Confederate issues" have been more productive? You can justify absolutely anything if you try hard enough. It's harder to justify the policies of a racist, genocidal government like the CCP, but calling them "Chinese issues" seems to work for some.

If you think you example is equivalent, or just even sensible, then you really need to pause and understand Chinese history before passing judgement.

In fact these attacks and insults by foreigners who know nothing about the subject matter is one the thing that makes Chinese public opinion very firm when it comes to issues like HK (a symbol of foreign aggression) and the riots there, which is what the cast of the movie commented on.

The riots were not defensible, but indeed you can justify anything if you try hard enough.

Re: Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Post by Grue3 »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #22

This is manufactured outrage, once again. Nothing wrong with filming in any part of China, but when people want to find something to pick on they find something to pick on.

There are a lot of countries that don't currently engage in genocide against ethnic minorities. Some are even named "China" [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China

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