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In Norway, personal income is a matter of public record

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Re: In Norway, personal income is a matter of public record

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While I accept that it might not be so bad once you get used to it, I really can't imagine any reason that it could be a good thing. The government could also compulsorily publish photos of everybody's genitals every year. Again, you'd probably get used to it, and it probably wouldn't be as bad as it sounds, but I can't see any upside to it.

Pictures of genitalia would only be a source of embarrassment, I can't really see how that is comparable to tax records.

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Does anyone know where I can download this dataset?

I don't think you can do it. Technically, the lists are available (for a short time if I am not mistaken) for perusal at a tax office; in practice, they are released to the media (e.g. major news outlets), who give you access to search by name plus league tables and aggregated statistics by year of birth, postcode etc.

Re: In Norway, personal income is a matter of public record

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Great point. In contrast look at what we generate in this country - http://www.zerohedge.com/article/matt-taibbi-asks-why-fed-ga...

I think you may have posted this comment on the wrong article?

Actually, the article is a "contrast and compare" statement. Norway is relatively open in its treatment of money and government, witness their handling of taxes. Alternatively, the US is relatively opaque, witness the article. I am not sure that I support either over the other. I had hoped to spur a conversation on the issue. I failed. It isn't the first time. Probably won't be the last. Perhaps because I am new to this process of posting and commenting, I failed to understand that it is necessary to draw the line. My apologies.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you may have posted this comment on the wrong article?

Actually, the article is a "contrast and compare" statement. Norway is relatively open in its treatment of money and government, witness their handling of taxes. Alternatively, the US is relatively opaque, witness the article. I am not sure that I support either over the other. I had hoped to spur a conversation on the issue. I failed. It isn't the first time. Probably won't be the last. Perhaps because I am new to t…

It would help a lot if you had described in your original comment why you thought the other article was relevant, as you did to some extent here.

Re: In Norway, personal income is a matter of public record

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, the article is a "contrast and compare" statement. Norway is relatively open in its treatment of money and government, witness their handling of taxes. Alternatively, the US is relatively opaque, witness the article. I am not sure that I support either over the other. I had hoped to spur a conversation on the issue. I failed. It isn't the first time. Probably won't be the last. Perhaps because I am new to t…

It would help a lot if you had described in your original comment why you thought the other article was relevant, as you did to some extent here.

That I did get. Not only did I not get a discussion going,(not for the points--but for the discussion) but at least two people were honestly confused by the post. What I have yet to learn is how deeply to comment if I should comment at all. I'd really like to contribute. But its clear that I would do well to stick to the reading unless its really, really in my field.

Thanks for your help.

Re: In Norway, personal income is a matter of public record

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Marx had a labor theory of value, just like adam smith which is entirely wrong. The cost of a good is determined by the value it provides to the consumer. The consumer will not pay more than the value it provides the to them. In Marx's view the cost of a good is determined by how much it cost to produce.

I have the impression that the standard economic doctrine was that the cost of a good was determined by where the supply curve intersects the demand curve — which is to say, the point at which the amount it costs to produce it is equal to how much value it provides to the consumer. This in itself doesn't contradict Marx's point (and what Marx thought the real value of things was is irrelevant). The point where he got…

Yes, of course supply and demand factor into the cost. Your argument above is using the theory of marginal utility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_utility) the labor theory of value was replaced by that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value

Re: In Norway, personal income is a matter of public record

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> I really can't imagine any reason that it could be a good thing. It means that anyone who's interviewing for a job at a company can look up what everyone else at the company makes, so they don't have to waste time interviewing with companies that pay too little, and it gives them better negotiating leverage. In general, it pushes the labor market toward being an ideal liberal market. Marx thought that would result…

> It means that anyone who's interviewing for a job at a company > can look up what everyone else at the company makes, so they > don't have to waste time interviewing with companies that pay > too little, and it gives them better negotiating leverage. It also means you can see how much your co-workers are making. This can create resentment if two people doing the same job with the same experience make different amou…

Is it bad for injustice to create resentment?
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