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One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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> Can't debug issues in Safari without borrowing a Mac > Can't do iOS development Not legally , no. These can be worked around with a VM, just like with the Windows issue. It sucks, but Apple is never going to support their development toolchain on any other platform. All in all, I think this is a pretty positive review for an "I switched to Linux" blog post. Usually they're more negative about the lack of finish a l…

The homebrew/jailbreak community have a custom toolchain called Theos (https://theos.dev/) which enables you to cross-compile to iOS devices without a Mac. I don't know how legal it is, but it's really frustrating that we aren't seeing more efforts to develop tools like this since so many companies and individuals are scared of pissing off Apple.

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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> Can't debug issues in Safari without borrowing a Mac > Can't do iOS development Not legally , no. These can be worked around with a VM, just like with the Windows issue. It sucks, but Apple is never going to support their development toolchain on any other platform. All in all, I think this is a pretty positive review for an "I switched to Linux" blog post. Usually they're more negative about the lack of finish a l…

You can also rent a full Mac mini from MacStadium and access it via VNC/SSH if you need. For ongoing projects though, where you don't need the hosting aspect, it would be cheaper to just buy a used Mac.

At my current place of work, we have a rack of Mac mini’s in a closet as our build server for the iOS app. I was kind horrified and amazed to learn of this at first, but it really is normal. It’s impressive what gymnastics Apple compels us to go through :)

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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I am also running Linux on Thinkpad (Debian unstable on T440s). As to the battery life, this typically requires some work but I found it is generally possible to get good battery life. I am able to get my T440s to run for total 24 hours with the highest option 9-cell, the built in 3-cell and another 3-cell that came original with the laptop. This I did to be able to work on a long yacht cruise with no extra power and…

I find that I can tune the battery life on a ThinkPad to be pretty amazing, but it is hard to get my change to stick after a reboot or even a suspend/wake cycle. One of the things that seems to make a big impact is PCIe ASPM. But where do you change your config files so it's always on? At least on Ubuntu there are numerous config files that formerly controlled power management settings, are still referenced in Stack Overflow answers, still exist on the filesystem, but don't actually do one damn thing, which is infuriating.

Used to be able to just drop commands into rc.local but now it's not as simple.

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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> Touchpad is not close to Mac I'm using l390 and the touchpad feels good for me. Never use mac, does mac's touchpad is considerably better? EDIT: formatting

Yes, Mac touchpads are light years ahead of any other trackpad. I believe this is because they control both, the hardware and the software side of it. For me this is the only reason holding me from moving too.

Also they bought FingerWorks[1] some years ago, who really pushed the envelope in this space.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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post #29
post #3

I am also running Linux on Thinkpad (Debian unstable on T440s). As to the battery life, this typically requires some work but I found it is generally possible to get good battery life. I am able to get my T440s to run for total 24 hours with the highest option 9-cell, the built in 3-cell and another 3-cell that came original with the laptop. This I did to be able to work on a long yacht cruise with no extra power and…

The T450 touchpad is compatible with the T440s and has real buttons. Should be a few bucks on ebay. See my question in this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21316263 ps, Love my T440s also. I would like two-finger horiz scroll to work better however, especially the swipe for "back" gesture. Somewhere a few months back was a comment about the XInput team comprising one overloaded guy needing help. I mess w…

Mine has long history. I had to hack the BIOS to get LTE working because original BIOS does not support any LTE cards and have already disassembled it completely to the last part twice after I got it wet. Once with hot, sweet latte and once completely drenched with sparkling water.

I had no tools to open the laptop and power button stopped working so it was not possible to go to bios and disconnect power (the internal battery is always on). I had to stand it on its side like an open wet book to let the water drain and then went shopping for tools. The end was that I had to disassemble EVERYTHING including LCD panel where it had water between individual leaves. I never knew that panel has so many layers.

Anyway, it still lives on. I curse it about once a week for being so tough preventing me from buying newer, better machine:)

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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I love Thinkpads and I love Linux. My current "daily driver" laptop is an old X220T from 2011, which is a tablet hybrid (including touchscreen and Wacom pen/digitizer). I don't use it because of nostalgia or a love for retro computers, I use it because it's still an excellent experience all these years later. No modern laptop in the current price range can beat it. I don't know if that's because the build quality was…

> No modern laptop in the current price range can beat it.

> I'm also super interested to try out the new ARM-based Macbooks

I’m having a hard time choosing between an old Thinkpad and the Pinebook Pro for a GNU/Linux laptop. Thinkpads have a better battle-tested durability + repairability reputation and Libreboot is a significant selling point to me. But x86 seems like it’s just beginning to fade into the past in favor of source-available ARM in the present and open-source RISC V in the future, and the Pinebook isn’t exactly terribly flimsy (magnesium-alloy outer shell, maybe inspired by Thinkpads) or expensive ($200).

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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I have several thinkpads (5) and run them all on Linux. Agree that the battery life is not optimal, even with TLP. Keyboards are typically excellent, but the brand of the keyboard can matter a lot (there are usually 2-3 different manufacturers of Thinkpad keyboards and they don't feel the same). Maintaining Thinkpads is usually a pure joy: super easy to open up, easy to replace RAM, sometimes CPU (depending on the model) and storage. And they are robust (will survive a fall).

Software wise, apart from some rare exceptions (X1 Gen 7?) everything works out of the box on most distros.

Re: One Year with ThinkPad and Linux (From MacBook Pro)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also rent a full Mac mini from MacStadium and access it via VNC/SSH if you need. For ongoing projects though, where you don't need the hosting aspect, it would be cheaper to just buy a used Mac.

At my current place of work, we have a rack of Mac mini’s in a closet as our build server for the iOS app. I was kind horrified and amazed to learn of this at first, but it really is normal. It’s impressive what gymnastics Apple compels us to go through :)

It must be quite common, or companies wouldn't sell dedicated rack mounts for these:

https://www.sonnettech.com/product/rackmacmini.html

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