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Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#31

I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".

> I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer.

I wasn't even aware that was possible until now.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth mentioning that the uninstaller sets the cookie by adapting your cookies file after reading contents of the file entirely unrelated to Zoom.

Worth mentioning that the author speculates that this happens not for a nefarious reason, but in a binary tree search to locate your zoom cookie.

Further, it's a SQLite database. It's not like it's hard to check this behavior, or instrument the database file to see exactly what it's doing.

It was really odd they didn't bother.

https://imgur.com/a/jBaW7RL

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#33

I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".

The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#34
post #8

I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".

Meeting hosts can make a setting change that makes that link visible by default, so you don't have to cancel xdg-open twice (only once)

can't

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#36

It's unfortunate that they bought and destroyed Keybase [1] in a bid to improve their security and even still there seems to be no improvement. Guess even the best folks can't make an impact if company culture prevents it. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/commit-activity

Ahhhh, "Our incredible journey" aka "So long suckers! See you at the yacht club sometime!"

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#37

It's unfortunate that they bought and destroyed Keybase [1] in a bid to improve their security and even still there seems to be no improvement. Guess even the best folks can't make an impact if company culture prevents it. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/commit-activity

Yeah this was so sad, but I'm happy the guys that made it got paid. Even they would have known this was the end for Keybase. Hopefully when their non-compete clauses end the developers will make another product the same.

... and it will get saddled with the reputation for trustworthiness it deserves. Sell me out once, shame on me...

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#38

It's unfortunate that they bought and destroyed Keybase [1] in a bid to improve their security and even still there seems to be no improvement. Guess even the best folks can't make an impact if company culture prevents it. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/commit-activity

> ...in a bid to improve their security

Not specific to Keybase, but a lot of "cyber security firms" these days base their entire business on gross violations of privacy, unfortunately.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#39
I argue Zoom does understand GDPR and the ePrivacy Directive from a legal perspective.

The specific citation about the length of a cookie is a recommendation and not a law[0]. The key word is 'should'.

I'm not a lawyer nor claim the ability to interpret GDPR legally, but I have seen companies that actively worked to edge case GDPR to their advantage (I was part of one). We would have lawyers and other 'GDPR experts' tell us what was possible and what wasn't then simply extend into the grey area.

Here, I reject the Halon's Razor[1].

[0] https://gdpr.eu/cookies/#:~:text=All%20persistent%20cookies%....

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

#40
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do have a Chrome App that will run zoom in Chrome with gallery view, but they hide that even more thoroughly unless you're on ChromeOS: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/zoom/hmbjbjdpkobdj...

To be fair, Chrome apps are ending next year. https://blog.chromium.org/2020/08/changes-to-chrome-app-supp... Maybe they'll be forced to make a usable web version by then, but I doubt it.

Nah, just one less thing to worry about by letting it go by the wayside.
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