I'm amazed that millions of supposed engineers believe this signal is coming from satellites and not terrestrial antennas.
SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up
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Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up
#32Have they said anything about pricing yet? This would seem like a decent solution for roaming data during travel too.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Latency to where? One of the promises of starlink is reducing latency over mid distance - say transatlantic or even across the states, due to using vacuum rather than fibres. Will be interesting how HFT use it. Starlink network is nowhere near complete so I’d expect things to only get better (until customers start piling on)
Why would HFT even consider using it? They are located as close as possible to the exchange they operate on, not across states or halfway across the world.
HFT have installed microwave relays between Chicago and New York and between London and Berlin to arbitrage on the 47% fiber optic delay between the exchanges. A LEO satellite relay serves the same purpose. I can see London to New York, New York to Tokyo fiber connections being superceded by LEO satellite.
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#34This is amazing. I know there will be latency issues, but for majority of web browsing, videos, etc, it shouldn't matter. We are entering the era of spacenet and the future looks bright. Imagine having devices as small as phones or set-top boxes that can directly access internet using satellites. It would lead to a revolution in many industries.
I'm not sure that's revolutionary outside of very rural areas or in a desert. Smart phones and set-top boxes etc can already access the internet without satellites, and often with much better latency. What would satellites add for urban or sub-urban applications? I do appreciate the extra competition that satellite internet brings. Especially in parts of the world with suppressed competition (like the US..) this coul…
Smart phones use 4G networks. And now there is another alternative.
Cellular networks have limited coverage. Imagine tracking a truck traveling across the US, or a ferry, across the English channel. Currently, that's not possible with 4G. But with a satellite driven internet system, it very well could be.
As for urban and sub-urban applications, not much.
Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up
#35This is amazing. I know there will be latency issues, but for majority of web browsing, videos, etc, it shouldn't matter. We are entering the era of spacenet and the future looks bright. Imagine having devices as small as phones or set-top boxes that can directly access internet using satellites. It would lead to a revolution in many industries.
In my experience (multiple clients in rural area) low speed (1.5 Mbps) with low (50 to 80 ms) latency will outperform 40Mbps/800 ms latency connections for video. Web browsing, of course, isn't really affected by latency.
"Web browsing, of course, isn't really affected by latency."
Web browsing involves a lot of ping-pong traffic pattern that multiplies latency.
Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up
#36This is amazing. I know there will be latency issues, but for majority of web browsing, videos, etc, it shouldn't matter. We are entering the era of spacenet and the future looks bright. Imagine having devices as small as phones or set-top boxes that can directly access internet using satellites. It would lead to a revolution in many industries.
Could you expand on which industries will be improved? My normal life is covered entirely by 4G, with 5G now appearing. I guess you mean things like internet on planes, shipping internet, off-shore rigs? But what things can't they do at the moment because of prohibitorily slow/costly satellite internet?
Logistics - Tracking cargo, without interruption, in real-time, across the world.
Shipping - Same as logistics, but across oceans.
Real-Time weather data, from solar powered sensors, spread across the world.
Real-Time video for tracking endangered wild-life.
I think different people can come up with more ideas.
The difference between satellite and cellular networks is coverage.
Imagine if a nature loving adventurer fell into a ravine and can just video call authorities about his location and condition.
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#37This is amazing. I know there will be latency issues, but for majority of web browsing, videos, etc, it shouldn't matter. We are entering the era of spacenet and the future looks bright. Imagine having devices as small as phones or set-top boxes that can directly access internet using satellites. It would lead to a revolution in many industries.
In my experience (multiple clients in rural area) low speed (1.5 Mbps) with low (50 to 80 ms) latency will outperform 40Mbps/800 ms latency connections for video. Web browsing, of course, isn't really affected by latency.
Web browsing can be super slow if you have a high latency. Between the DNS requests, the TCP handshakes, the TLS handshakes, it takes forever before you start receiving the actual content.
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#38This is amazing. I know there will be latency issues, but for majority of web browsing, videos, etc, it shouldn't matter. We are entering the era of spacenet and the future looks bright. Imagine having devices as small as phones or set-top boxes that can directly access internet using satellites. It would lead to a revolution in many industries.
In my experience (multiple clients in rural area) low speed (1.5 Mbps) with low (50 to 80 ms) latency will outperform 40Mbps/800 ms latency connections for video. Web browsing, of course, isn't really affected by latency.
When you say video, do you mean video conferencing? I don't see how latency would affect video streaming significantly, other than the initial buffering time. In fact I would say high latency affects general web browsing much more than video streaming.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
But if you can access to information from an exchange halfway across the world faster than others, you can definitely trade on that.
And if you can break the speed of light, you don't need a second exchange.
It’s quite easy to “break” the speed of light in fiberoptic glass.
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#40I'm not sure if you can take that testmy.net source for granted. It mis-reported my "internet" speed by about 30Mbps. I get around 50Mbps on fast.com and speed.cloudflare.com - those two speedtests are enough for me to consider it "internet" speed.