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Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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Apple pushed an OSX update (10.15.6) just to demand acceptance to their data-sharing practices from all their user. The forced-to-accept "welcome" screen (which shows up before the main desktop and disregard every single accessibility option the user might have (even the mouse scrolling direction!) starts with: > "Apple's ad platform is designed to protect your information ..." A few interesting things. First, I doub…

"A sound or a combination of sounds, or its representation in writing or printing, that symbolizes and communicates a meaning"

'Ad' sure seems like a word to me :)

I actually think there are more people that would prefer contracts, terms and conditions, and legal documents be written more in plain English, not less. Things that reduce friction of being able to take in that information without reducing clarity seem to me like a net positive.

Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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> We believe that industry consultation is critical for changes to platform policies, as these updates have a far-reaching impact on the developer ecosystem. Why should platform makers consult the advertising industry? It's not like the advertising industry consulted anybody before they started collecting every bit of data they could.

Because many of the people developing apps for their platform rely on advertising revenue to pay the bills?

Do newspapers need to know what websites every subscriber visits in order to put ads in the paper?

The idea that privacy needs to be conceded in order for a healthy ad market to exist is false.

Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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FB has done plenty wrong but you can make the point without upping the hyperbole as well. There is a danger of FB manipulating things on its own but they didn't sell the data to any third party including Cambridge Analytica, it was harvested because of poor API policy(your friend auth giving access to some of your details) which was fixed in the future. The behavioral profiles were built by Cambridge Analytica on its…

> it was harvested because of poor API policy which was fixed in the future Is there any evidence that it was actually fixed?

They had a bunch of blog posts about restricting APIs like this[1]. I think someone can look at the current APIs and see what related friends information they allow. The last time I used FB APIs was in 2012 and the last time I used FB was in 2014, so not up to date with them.

[1] https://about.fb.com/news/2018/04/restricting-data-access/

Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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Because many of the people developing apps for their platform rely on advertising revenue to pay the bills?

It won't prevent them to show ads. It will prevent them to show targeted ads. So your point is either invalid or rather "they won't be able to be datamining their potentials users to pay the bills" ?

Advertisers are willing to pay way more for targeted ads. If an app is relying on advertising revenue, the inability to target ads will directly cause the app to generate less revenue.

Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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The online ads business is collapsing. I predicted that some years ago and now the first signs become visible. First data collecting will be come harder and harder because people simply don't want that anymore. Then if targeted ads are no longer possible we have a level playing field again where everyone can deliver ads not just the big players. And finally if ads do no longer pay for everything on the net we will finally put a piece tag on commercial stuff.

Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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What changes are being made in iOS 14 that are so impactful to FB's business?

https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-14-privacy/

Facebook is getting scared of the prompt (shown by Apple) saying FB will track you, and whether you would like to opt-out. More importantly, they are putting the opt-opt right below the opt-in (yayyy!)

Almost every app will have to ask this kinda prompt now. Not just FB.

Good move by Apple

Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14

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> We believe that industry consultation is critical for changes to platform policies, as these updates have a far-reaching impact on the developer ecosystem. Why should platform makers consult the advertising industry? It's not like the advertising industry consulted anybody before they started collecting every bit of data they could.

Because many of the people developing apps for their platform rely on advertising revenue to pay the bills?

It's my phone, not the developer's. I should absolutely have the right to disable this kind of tracking on my phone. If the advertisers/ developers want to track people, maybe they should start buying people phones or do what Google did and build an OS and give it away.
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