Anyone else immediately thinking about Subnautica while looking at the article's teaser image? :)
I think about Subnautica all the time - I love that game :) - can't wait for below zero to release!
Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
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Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have sources for such accusations?
I was surprised too. The anti-semite part seems to be dubious at best - the only link I found is someone's very liberal interpretation of some words
In many letters written during WWII Cousteau wishes to get rid of "youtres" which is a derogatory word for Jews much worse than the N word in English.
The defense of Commandant Cousteau's anti-Semite private writings usually goes along the lines of "okay, but everybody did the same at the time". But this is not true. Most people did not actively call for the physical extermination of Jews in occupied France. They did nothing to prevent it -- but rejoicing and calling for more is on another level.
His brother was a frequent contributor to "Je suis partout" during WWII and was sentenced to death for his writings at the end of the war (later commuted to life in prison).
And yes, Cousteau is not his brother. Yet -- not a good family.
Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have sources for such accusations?
I was surprised too. The anti-semite part seems to be dubious at best - the only link I found is someone's very liberal interpretation of some words
It doesn't take much to find it. Here's a quote from the man himself:
> Ici, nous n'avons toujours pas de logement. Nous sommes actuellement campés dans un petit pavillon d'une pension de famille sur la Corniche. Ce n'est pas gai pour Simone, mais il n'y aura d'appartement convenable que quand on aura fichu à la porte tous les ignobles youtres qui nous encombrent. [0]
A rough translation of the last sentence might be:
> It's not cheerful for Simone, but there won't be a suitable apartment until we have kicked out all the vile youtres [slur for Jew] that plague us.
But, to be more charitable to the man, it was a time where anti-semitism was wide spread, and doesn't seem to be more than the norm of the time. But it isn't really ambiguous.
[0] https://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1999/06/18/la-plonge...
Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#34Jacques Cousteau was a horrible person, both personally (bigot, anti-Semite, pathological liar) and professionally. It's inexplicable that he passes for a defender of nature when in reality he "explored" things by blowing them up with explosives and destroyed unique sites, etc. The grandson is a different person of course; but he invokes his grandfather's name as a reference and proof of competence. Don't fall for it…
He may have been all that, but it's hardly relevant.
What's relevant is whether he made a net positive or negative impact on the world with his actions.
My guess is he made more kids (and adults) happy with his programs, than he made sad with his personality and opinions.
Say I listen to a LGBTIOAQ+* muscian who hates straight people like myself (they exist), who is a feminist who hates men like myself, but I enjoy their music, their personality is definitely horrible to me, but I don't care because I love their music and I will listen just the same :)
Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#35Jacques Cousteau was a horrible person, both personally (bigot, anti-Semite, pathological liar) and professionally. It's inexplicable that he passes for a defender of nature when in reality he "explored" things by blowing them up with explosives and destroyed unique sites, etc. The grandson is a different person of course; but he invokes his grandfather's name as a reference and proof of competence. Don't fall for it…
He may have been all that, but it's hardly relevant. What's relevant is whether he made a net positive or negative impact on the world with his actions. My guess is he made more kids (and adults) happy with his programs, than he made sad with his personality and opinions. Say I listen to a LGBTIOAQ+* muscian who hates straight people like myself (they exist), who is a feminist who hates men like myself, but I enjoy t…
Listening to Michael Jackson's songs is one thing. Saying he was a great human being and wanting to put things to his name is another.
If you like Cousteau's movies, good for you. But invoking his name and making him a hero is, I think, wrong.
Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have sources for such accusations?
Plenty of sources (in French). For example: Anti-Semitism: https://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1999/06/18/la-plonge... Cousteau's first wife Simone was independently wealthy and financed his boat (Calypso) and expeditions. She lived on board most of the time (yet never appears on camera). But he had another secret family (with kids) on the shore with a former flight attendant, since the late 70s. Simone only lear…
This is his private life. It has nothing to do with your allegations of "bigot", "liar", etc.
If this is your references, you end up having denigrated him.
About your allegation of J. Cousteau having protected marine life "by blowin' it", it is his work that has raised the current awareness of the richness and fragility of marine life. Compare his positive achievements at the scale of the whole planet (or at least Western world) versus some small part of a coral reef he blew up.
Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#37I suspect somebody was inspired by the Octonauts' Octopod, down to the "liquid door" hatch inside: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/octopod/images/f/fd/Octo...
Moon Pools have been the cool thing since at least 1989. Can't have a water tentacle in your habitat without a moon pool.
Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#38Not sure how much of a news story it is. I also want to build the ISS of the sea, I always did. Now, I don't have a famous granddad with whom I share my last name, but even if I did it's not like it's enough to build ISS of the sea.
The article is written in a very dreamy tone and contains very little substantial information. It firmly assures that "Proteus will be" such and such, as if they are making the finishing touches already, yet "Proteus is still in the concept phase". "Fabien is raising $135 million" (which, TBH, seems quite a conservative estimate for this project on the one hand, and on the other is a pretty huge investment for something that doesn't have any ROI projections attached), but there's no discussion about what else except for his surname this Fabien guy actually has to have any chances to succeed.
So, yeah, I would prefer if journalist learned to provide something more factual and informative in their stories, instead of telling me how cool deep-sea exploration is. I know it's cool, alright? I don't know if a project like that can actually happen in the observable future.
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#39Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea
#40I strongly recommend the YouTube channel deep sea oddities:
It made me realize that alien like life is more fascinating on earth than it will ever be on my lifetime lurking at the space.