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Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

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Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

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I was once desperately poor. Too poor to turn on the heat. But I did have access to friendly cats, so I've been through this experiment in real life. One cat stuffed under the blankets at night is a significant improvement. But as you add more and more cats, the improvement becomes only incremental. I eventually learned that two cats was really the best one could hope for. Best positioning is between the legs, and wi…

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Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#32
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you can keep your cat indoors?

Any sufficiently popular indoor pet that can survive outdoors will end up with a feral population. So it's a bit like saying "instead of ROHS can't we just mandate recycling, but if the cheap kids toys people dump indescribably could breed.

It's pretty easy, just ensure that all cats sold for anything apart from breeding are desexed, and have significant penalties for allowing unregested animals to breed.

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#33
$675 for 2250kWh of electricity? They're doing something wrong.

That's 30 cents per kwh of heat. Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world.

But it's better than that, because that's heat not electricity. 4 watts of heat transfer for 1 watt of electricity is reasonable with a heat pump, so it's $1.20, or if you consider that co-efficient of performance (COP) is typically measured for cooling and we should be counting the electrical waste heat here a COP of 5, which makes their number $1.50 per kwh.

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#34
As for the title itself (and probably my understanding of NZ english), for me “panel heater” means one of the modern electric powered planar sources of IR radiation and after living for few months in flat heated by only such things I’ve found that only reasonable way to use such electric heaters is that these things somehow warm up your cats and nothing much else in the room ;)

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#37
Bertha's Kitty Boutique was already on this in 2005...

> Bertha's Kitty Boutique reminds you that heating bills are going to be high this winter and on these cold winter nights, there's nothing more comforting than a warm cat. (PURRING) And if one cat can warm you up, think of what 6, or 10 of 'em could do. These are skinny designer cats, these are big heater cats (MEOW) who use tuna for fuel and produce enough BTUs to heat up your whole bed and your bedroom too. And we have them in all styles to go with your bedroom decor -- tabby cats, angora, Siamese, orange cats, black cats -- anywhere from 30 pounders up to the family size. Heater cats from Bertha's (MEOW) Hurry in while supplies last.

https://www.prairiehome.org/story/2005/10/01/berthas-kitty-b...

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#38
post #33

$675 for 2250kWh of electricity? They're doing something wrong. That's 30 cents per kwh of heat . Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world. But it's better than that, because that's heat not electricity. 4 watts of heat transfer for 1 watt of electricity is reasonable with a heat pump, so it's $1.20, or if you consider that co-efficient of perform…

>Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world.

New Zealand does not have states. You are likely also confusing NZD with USD. The price listed seems entirely reasonable when you understand this.

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#39

I was once desperately poor. Too poor to turn on the heat. But I did have access to friendly cats, so I've been through this experiment in real life. One cat stuffed under the blankets at night is a significant improvement. But as you add more and more cats, the improvement becomes only incremental. I eventually learned that two cats was really the best one could hope for. Best positioning is between the legs, and wi…

Have you tried just adding more blankets. I never run heating at night because I find that even at 0c outside I can just stack up 4 blankets and still be warm.

Re: Cat vs. panel heater: which is better?

#40
post #33

$675 for 2250kWh of electricity? They're doing something wrong. That's 30 cents per kwh of heat . Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world. But it's better than that, because that's heat not electricity. 4 watts of heat transfer for 1 watt of electricity is reasonable with a heat pump, so it's $1.20, or if you consider that co-efficient of perform…

>Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world. New Zealand does not have states. You are likely also confusing NZD with USD. The price listed seems entirely reasonable when you understand this.

Ah, good point. I just assumed that unqualified dollars on the internet meant "USD"...
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