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Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

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Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

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With some hilarious results: https://i.imgur.com/hpNfPtZ.jpg Notice the little porches added by the AI. It's actually impressive how good the 3D models turned out.

What is the explanation of what happened there?

If I had to guess it's an AI going wild on some kind of military (swept wings?) airfield - they looks like plane's but I'm assuming the AI system they use assumes everything not terrain is a house or a road or similar.

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#32
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Before anyone gets excited and goes to buy the game outright: First: Please consider trying out the game via the Xbox Game Pass for PC program instead. $5/month, $1 for the first month instead of buying it outright. Do remember to cancel. Thank me later. Second: The whole download/install experience is a trip. You need to download about ~90 GB of data (no problem!). However, the downloader is abysmal. It's not optimi…

Yeah, the load times on this are crazy. 1-2 mins to start the app and get to the main menu, another 30s-1min after you pick your itinerary to get to the runway. And I have one of the fastest chips (3900x), m.2 SSD, and RAM. How long are people willing to wait to play it, especially given how often I crashed in my first few flights.

Funny, I have the same loading times on an hdd with a 2700 and 64gb of ram, so the slowdown seem something relatively indenpendent.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Second this, visually its impressive, but on the rest of the simulator it feels weird, specially the control sensitivity. I haven't done a full comparison yet because the plane I could compare more directly would involve stock vs payware, which is not really fair. I do think that they can improve it with time but definitively feels rushed.

Flight sim noob, but that Cessna Citation CJ4 model behaves very oddly. It has this very weird pumping up/down behavior. The 747 model behaves a lot better. This is not a tolerable release. My gut feeling is that Microsoft needs to get this french studio (Asobo) to spend at least 50% more time on making this work. I don't think they will.

Tbf, the cessna and the 747 will behave very differently. I do think some jerkiness is added by the head camera effects that have been added.

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#34
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Can I ask a different question, putting the scenery apart, is it a decent flight sim?

It’s probably the best flight sim to date. I see huge potential for addons to leverage the map data. Perhaps an arcade mode to make it more accessible to casual gamers.

Overall maybe, but I'd say the jury's out on the flight model vs X-Plane, and it (currently) doesn't model airliner systems quite to the level of the payware X-plane airbuses or the Zibo boeing. It really crushes X-Plane on weather currently.

Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

#35
post #10

Before anyone gets excited and goes to buy the game outright: First: Please consider trying out the game via the Xbox Game Pass for PC program instead. $5/month, $1 for the first month instead of buying it outright. Do remember to cancel. Thank me later. Second: The whole download/install experience is a trip. You need to download about ~90 GB of data (no problem!). However, the downloader is abysmal. It's not optimi…

Loads times don’t bother me, it’s the really buggy aircraft systems that do. Multiple times I’ve gotten the avionics bugged out where they flat out don’t respond anymore. Autopilot also flys like a drunk.

First thing you should do though is disable live traffic and no online players. It greatly improved performance for me. Visuals are amazing now.

Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

#36
Lots of folks here saying “it’s impressive but...”

The game was probably released faster than what one would expect from a super polished title, but the game is still extraordinary. The visuals are superb, the detail is spectacular (I can see my real house with our pool as I fly over), the mechanics are incredible for a base flight simulator (lots of stuff you’d normally pay extra via addons for), and the game has been out less than a week.

They’re going to make the game better, and if you’re into flight simulators it’s a super easy purchase.

I went into this week with high expectations and my expectations were greatly exceeded.

Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the load times on this are crazy. 1-2 mins to start the app and get to the main menu, another 30s-1min after you pick your itinerary to get to the runway. And I have one of the fastest chips (3900x), m.2 SSD, and RAM. How long are people willing to wait to play it, especially given how often I crashed in my first few flights.

Funny, I have the same loading times on an hdd with a 2700 and 64gb of ram, so the slowdown seem something relatively indenpendent.

I’ve been running the task manager on a separate monitor to see where the bottlenecks are. Those long load times appear to be, for me, GPU bound. It’s probably pre-rendering something. I'm running a 3700X, 32GB RAM, M2 SSD, GTX 1070, gigabit internet.

Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

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With some hilarious results: https://i.imgur.com/hpNfPtZ.jpg Notice the little porches added by the AI. It's actually impressive how good the 3D models turned out.

What is the explanation of what happened there?

It can be OpenStreetMap again (like the obelisk).

There's a tag for museum aircraft, 'historic=aircraft', but the tiles rendered for openstreetmap.org don't show it, so people add a tag saying it's also a building.

It's only a theory, I haven't correlated a picture from the game with matching data.

Here's an example from the USS Intrepid: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/277980026

Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator maps entire globe with AI

#39
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Before anyone gets excited and goes to buy the game outright: First: Please consider trying out the game via the Xbox Game Pass for PC program instead. $5/month, $1 for the first month instead of buying it outright. Do remember to cancel. Thank me later. Second: The whole download/install experience is a trip. You need to download about ~90 GB of data (no problem!). However, the downloader is abysmal. It's not optimi…

Also: ignore the 8GB minimum RAM requirement. Whoever built that chart ignored the fact that Win10 needs a gig or two of its own to run. And FS20 needs about 7.5GB to boot.

Get 32GB and give yourself some breathing room.

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