When working with children, losing ones temper is a great way to show them that they have “won”.
Do you think the people who had the power shut down on their party house feel like they have won?
100% yes. Like you would not believe.
LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
31–40 of 86 posts
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#32Why people would voluntarily go to large crowded gatherings at this time is beyond me
Probably because they don't know anyone who had COVID personally and think the media is hyping it up. Plus the numbers are low compared to population. If you were an accountant, this would be a rounding error in the large picture. Then some areas of the country they aren't as serious about locking things down like in Tennessee, Utah, South Dakota or Wyoming. Heard a radio ad promoting road trips to Wyoming, they even mention they have freedom "ready to be free again". I guess that makes sense though if the rest of the country is locked down, other places can take advantage of it and profit. Supply and Demand. I'm curious how the results after Sturgis will be in 2 weeks, other places being closed and people from all over the country flocked there. Well they attract a bunch of people every year from all over anyways, but I figured this year be more so since less opportunities for entertainment right now.
Then our own president said some people didn't even know they had it comparing it to a cold. Then reports that some doctors have been threatened to lose their job if they don't sign off on COVID because the hospital gets extra money even if someone died from Cancer. Then another doctor thought the ventilators were doing more harm than good so if the doctors kill people with ventilators that's a extra 50 grand. Some people are worth more dead than alive. I think there's a virus just like other things but we're being played in a way to influence the election. Just like how with Obama they were scaring everyone about Swine Flu, working on a new vaccine for that too but that just kinda fizzled out. I know I'm skeptical personally and it is very concerning all the big sites are censoring this stuff. I think because the big drug companies run advertising on these sites, I know in other countries they banned advertising drugs but in the USA that's big business.
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#33For their next party trick, they'll take away your water and electricity for wrongthink or not voting for the "correct" party. Shocking that some people think this is acceptable. If freedom falls in the US, the rest of the world suffers too.
I don’t recall reading anything about freedom to make unbelievably stupid, selfish decisions in the US constitution.
It's mentioned about 30 times. Ctrl+F "vote"
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is clear; whether this action will advance public health goals is not.
Well, as long as they keep taking this action consistently, it seems pretty clear that it will advance public health goals.
Speaking as somebody who sees friends posting party footage on Instagram Stories, I would not be so confident. There are many places to host parties. With the mayor giving them attention, people will be afraid they are missing out.
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#35For their next party trick, they'll take away your water and electricity for wrongthink or not voting for the "correct" party. Shocking that some people think this is acceptable. If freedom falls in the US, the rest of the world suffers too.
There is a very wide gap between turning off someones electricity for routinely hosting parties against regulations during a pandemic that is killing more people per day than most wars and thought policing.
Also your comment could be made about literally any enforcement action ever taken.
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#36A simple fine or some other existing punishment would have sufficed. The legal system has had the tools to deal with rule breakers for centuries already. Cutting off water and electricity for order violations sets a very bad precedent, and is highly irresponsible. I'm shocked that it's even legal to do so.
For people who glaringly have too much money to even care about it is a fine really a punishment?
It is if you scale the fine based on their income.
Also, an idea: rather than handing fines and fees to the government -- which incentivizes all kinds of bad behavior, from civil forfeiture to crazy permitting laws -- you stick it in a general fund, and hand it back -- evenly distributed -- to the taxpayer as a dividend at the end of the year.
Do that for every bit of revenue that government makes outside of collecting taxes.
I'm curious where this falls down (outside of implementation difficulties).
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#37Can we get a recap of the Corona figures broken down by country just for a laugh? I get the impression some countries aren't taking this as seriously as others.
The leading countries are Australia, NZ, South Korea etc: https://covid19.healthdata.org The estimate is that the US will be at 300,000 deaths by end of year. Whilst NZ will be at 22. US is 65x more populous so if they adopted similar policies would have been at 1430 deaths. And it could even be a million deaths by the time a vaccine is readily available. And people like to bring up the island nonsense but fact is th…
Domestic policies probably don't really do that much aside from maybe closing public services like schools.
It has to do with how people behave, as we see in the article here, and NZ gets much less international traffic than the US and the island take has some merit. Iceland had 10 cases, Madagaskar around 150. You could argue that South Korea is an island too since there probably is little exchange on land routes. Australia wishes to be a continent, but... okay, maybe it really doesn't really fit here.
Infections aren't spread homogeneously, so I believe behavior of people is the main factor. Too bad, because you cannot just blame all this on someone.
I think the causes of infections get misattributed just like the performance of economies to immediate government policies.
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#38A simple fine or some other existing punishment would have sufficed. The legal system has had the tools to deal with rule breakers for centuries already. Cutting off water and electricity for order violations sets a very bad precedent, and is highly irresponsible. I'm shocked that it's even legal to do so.
Hollywood hills. Would fines have worked? This might just be creative enforcement.
(To be honest I wonder if shutting off power will work... can they just get a generator or set up tiki torches?)
oh and new business idea: powerbnb
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#39For their next party trick, they'll take away your water and electricity for wrongthink or not voting for the "correct" party. Shocking that some people think this is acceptable. If freedom falls in the US, the rest of the world suffers too.
> Shocking that some people think this is acceptable. If freedom falls in the US, the rest of the world suffers too.
This is incredibly melodramatic. To think that restricting a party during a global pandemic risks freedom more than, say, backing coups in Honduras is a ridiculous position.
Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes it is legal. Here is the motion: https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/davidryucc/pages/2849/...
Maybe we ought to change our laws to account for the super rich who can just bypass most penalties using their wealth or connections.
I remember listening to some podcast, it was something about inequality or etc doesn't matter.
As part of it this woman was to interview some rich guy.
He offered to do it over a dinner and picked her up in his lambo.
When they arrived there was no free space so he parked in the disabled space. When she mentioned that to him he replied.
"Don't worry its a $400 parking space"
The thing is he is not wrong.
There are myriad of stories of companies making millions cheating and when caught paying thousands in fines.
Thats not a deterrent but attractor of bad behaviour.
The fines meant to be fines - something that stings and burns - and not get out of jail free for one's who can afford it.