Don't what to transform this to Whataboutism but it really annoys me that I can't uninstall the apps on OSX which are clearly optional: TV, Podcasts, Music, Garageband, Safari etc etc. Was actually excited about iTunes splitting into multiple apps because I was expecting to be able to split up the app size into optionals that I could remove - nope
Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
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Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
#32Browsers became a functional part of an OS a long time ago. What is the real problem? If you are on windows and worried about bloat? WTF?
More like one day you turn on windows and it takes over your boot process, has a splash screen, walks you through "your newest browser", adds things to your desktop, changes associations to things.
Sounds good, right?
Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
#33This is a pretty sane move on MS's part... I find it reasonable that an OS doesn't let you remove what may be the only browser on the system, for a lot of reasons. I read this as a push to really ditch IE in the very near future, and don't really mind at all. In no particular order - Something has to provide a native webview for desktop applications - MS has no default package manager for users, and doesn't provide b…
this was already solved ten years ago when Microsoft was fined half a billion bucks by the EU for promoting their own browser this way and disadvantaging competition https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-21684329#:~:text=Microso... . very simple solution: offer a browser choice window on first start.
That requirement ended in 2014. Now everything comes with a web browser, and most are even less changeable than in Windows.
The world is a different place than in 2014.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/196170-microsoft-is-fi...
Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
#34I can't imagine too many people that actually care about something like this are using Windows.
Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
#35I even let Edge be the default browser. That way, whenever an app opens a link, it opens in a browser I don't use, and it can't read any important information or browser fingerprint that matters. I am still using Firefox for my browsing needs. EDIT: It's more about my browsing habits: Now this browser has been opened. I can close it before the page loads and before I have read anything I really don't care about.
If you can't trust the apps that you're running on an unsandboxed system, getting fingerprinted should be the least of your worries. Since there's no sandbox, it could very well keylog everything you type, or steal your browsing history/login cookies directly from your browser.
Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
#36This is a pretty sane move on MS's part... I find it reasonable that an OS doesn't let you remove what may be the only browser on the system, for a lot of reasons. I read this as a push to really ditch IE in the very near future, and don't really mind at all. In no particular order - Something has to provide a native webview for desktop applications - MS has no default package manager for users, and doesn't provide b…
> So removing the browser may leave a user unable to bootstrap another browser onto the system (at least once IE is actually gone) without outside help or another machine.
Invoke-WebRequest 'https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US' -OutFile firefox-latest.exeRe: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can’t they use the Windows App Store to let users install their browser of choice?
I think it has a rule, that prohibits 3rd party browser engines. :/
I don't think it's that, rather it makes it nigh impossible because the browsers will have to be rewritten to use UWP APIs, which were quite limited when they first launched. Also they won't be able to compete with Edge which had access to restricted APIs
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it has a rule, that prohibits 3rd party browser engines. :/
I don't think it's that, rather it makes it nigh impossible because the browsers will have to be rewritten to use UWP APIs, which were quite limited when they first launched. Also they won't be able to compete with Edge which had access to restricted APIs
Windows Store allows non UWP apps for over 2 years now.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cant MS just provide a button somewhere that downloads and installs the browser? A computer doesn't need a browser to download something from the internet (such as a browser).
Can’t they use the Windows App Store to let users install their browser of choice?
Do I use that window app store to configure my router or internet connection? How about if you have a corporate account and log in through a connector like okta, which display a web page for login? How about when firefox and half your os gets infected and deleted by your av -will a windows install disk bring back your browser so you can download firefox again?
Being able to show a webpage is an essential function of all modern operating systems. the included browser is a part of windows, much like notepad and vi, or a package manager (programs control panel in windows), or regedit. You are free to add a browser of your choice. The one that's part of the base os image is not your choice, and is supported by the os vendor, as part of the os. You want an os interface to let you frankenstein your os with custom parts and make it unsupported? You have one. You, as an advanced user, can remove edge with powershell very easily.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it has a rule, that prohibits 3rd party browser engines. :/
Why would it have that rule?