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Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by bdclimber14 » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:21 PM UTC

mahmud wrote: post #25

This has a lot of potential. Only problem I see is the pricing. You should be doing 4x what you currently have.

I find the pricing somewhat confusing too. What exactly does 10,000 people entail? What if a person is just signed up to the email list? The addons for text messaging and email blasting make calculating what the real price is, difficult.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by ile » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:22 PM UTC

ddkrone wrote: post #30

ile wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jealous? I think that's a great idea.

Jealous? Of what? Another half-ass workaround for fixing the ADD problem of the voting populace?

At least you admitted it fixes a problem.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by neilk » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:22 PM UTC

Wow. Compared to what a lot of people are calling startups these days, this is practically General Electric.

Looks great to me, although I have not tried it (since it's 100% integration work, devil is in the details). Seems that you've done this before and built the app you would have wanted.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by bdclimber14 » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:24 PM UTC

ddkrone wrote: post #12

This looks like a joke. Is this real?

You are being incredibly rude and attacking. This is a real pain for some people, and the OP has built a solution to solve that. Having a dozen distributed communication mediums that you have to manage and stay on top of may not be your pain, but that doesn't me its no one's pain.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by rymngh » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:24 PM UTC

ddkrone wrote: post #30

ile wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jealous? I think that's a great idea.

Jealous? Of what? Another half-ass workaround for fixing the ADD problem of the voting populace?

This guy sounds like an asshole. If he is so concerned about the current state of affairs he should write an application and show the world real problem solving concepts. Instead he rages about something and in the end pretends to be smarter than he actually is.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by neilk » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:27 PM UTC

spking wrote: post #3

Feedback: It wasn't immediately clear to me who this is for. A big headline telling me "Online Campaign Management for Civic Leaders and Candidates" would be helpful.

I might be in the minority, but I understood what it was for pretty quickly. Tagline could use a bit of tweaking maybe.

The city-in-a-box icon meant nothing to me. My brain keeps seeing a joystick for some reason.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by jh3 » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:28 PM UTC

neilk wrote: post #33

Wow. Compared to what a lot of people are calling startups these days, this is practically General Electric. Looks great to me, although I have not tried it (since it's 100% integration work, devil is in the details). Seems that you've done this before and built the app you would have wanted.

> Wow. Compared to what a lot of people are calling startups these days, this is practically General Electric.

This made me chuckle a lot.

Anyway, this definitely looks like an idea that could take off/has potential. As others have said, it might be better if you did not have to sign up for the 14 day trial with a credit card. However, every trial I've ever signed up for worth paying for later has asked for my credit card information.

And for what it's worth, I understood what it was about without really doing anything.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by bdclimber14 » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:29 PM UTC

I think you'll find the size of the market, measured by number of customers, to be much smaller than you think. I say this because your pricing seems very low. This is obviously a very comprehensive solution and complex software. The individual components from 3rd parties would be much more expensive if they were used separately, (e.g. MailChimp, CRM, etc.) so I think you should price based on what the cost of all the items would be.

Another commenter said 4x, I'd say 10x plus an upfront fee.

However, I could be wrong, please correct me if you've done trials and found this to be the best price :)

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by ddkrone » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:30 PM UTC

ile wrote: post #32

ddkrone wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jealous? Of what? Another half-ass workaround for fixing the ADD problem of the voting populace?

At least you admitted it fixes a problem.

In fact I think it does the opposite. This doesn't fix anything. It makes the problem worse. In our current politics there is absolutely no real dialog between the politicians and people. Blasting twitter updates and facebook status updates to your followers is the shallowest kind of follower engagement because even though everyone can retweet and comment on those status updates no one really does any real communicating in those mediums. For a guy who claims to want to fix the political landscape this is clearly a step in the wrong direction.

Re: Show HN: NationBuilder, my startup just launched

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Post by ssebro » Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 11:30 PM UTC

emiranda wrote: post #27

Does anyone else think people would be more likely to sign up and try it if a credit card wasn't required for the 14 day trial? I was going to sign up to to see what it was like, but then decided not to when I found out that a credit card is required.

That's the point- he only wants people that are seriously interested in using his service to sign up. Since giving him your credit card chased you away, you probably wouldn't have ever paid for the service. Be honest, are you his target demographic?