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The QAnon Conspiracy Theory: A Security Threat in the Making?

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It seems like the media is talking about this more than anyone else at this point. There have literally been over 2000 articles written to debunk this. The content has been banned from reddit, twitter and other platforms. Why is everyone so vigilant to call it "dangerous"? Why not flat earth and chem trails? Why all the attention for this one thing?

Because there is at least one Republican politician who will win a House seat in November and is a firm believer.

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Okay, but why is this theory so different? There are lots and lots of conspiracy theories from every corner of the political sphere. Why is this one a real security threat?

There appears to be a not-insignificant number of people who believe these theories. And unlike flat-earthers, who aren't out to hurt anyone else, some of these people are motivated to take their dangerously misguided ideas of justice into their own hands.

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America is bat-shit crazy.

This is going to get voted down to hell, but I'd like to reply before it does: America really does have a long history of huge numbers of people believing absolutely insane things. QAnon is the new satanic panic. I'd love to know how and why, but I think the answer is probably just religion.

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Okay, but why is this theory so different? There are lots and lots of conspiracy theories from every corner of the political sphere. Why is this one a real security threat?

This already happened because of QAnon. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/us/pizzagate-attack-sente... These people see a powerful satanic child raping cabal of power that run things from the shadows. Their champion is Donald Trump, if he were to lose this election it's not a reach to see an uptick in these sorts of attacks. Because, honestly, if this conspiracy were true, the only moral thing to do would be to oppo…

Urban legends about a "powerful satanic child raping cabal of power that run things from the shadows" date back to the 1980s at least. Some of the underlying tropes are centuries old or even more - for instance, there's plenty of historical, blatantly biased propaganda about Roman emperors portraying them as vicious, crazy sex predators. So what's new about Pizza and Q exactly?

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All misinformation is a risk and threat. But Qanon seems minor when compared to others that are perpetuated by major news organization and undermine democracy: Russia collusion conspiracy theory, fine people on both sides hoax (the belief that the President called neo-nazis fine people).

These have much more public and institutional support than QAnon.

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post #3

Okay, but why is this theory so different? There are lots and lots of conspiracy theories from every corner of the political sphere. Why is this one a real security threat?

This theory scares the heck out of people who currently control media and TV because it is very well structured it asks people to go to (in a weird sort of way) first principles and start from there * Why is bitcoin so scary? Because it completely removes CENTRAL CONTROL even more so - it removes the need to TRUST a central bank * QAnon is similar. If you read the precepts of it, it is written by someone who believes…

Wake up, sheeple!!

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post #3

Okay, but why is this theory so different? There are lots and lots of conspiracy theories from every corner of the political sphere. Why is this one a real security threat?

This already happened because of QAnon. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/us/pizzagate-attack-sente... These people see a powerful satanic child raping cabal of power that run things from the shadows. Their champion is Donald Trump, if he were to lose this election it's not a reach to see an uptick in these sorts of attacks. Because, honestly, if this conspiracy were true, the only moral thing to do would be to oppo…

I believe it was wikileaks that revealed the term "spirit cooking" along with some vague references to "having kids ready in a hottub" for the Chairman of the DNC that started pizzagate. That happened in Oct 2016.

Q didn't start posting for another year.

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As someone with a family member who is falling into this non-sense, I will tell you it is extremely dangerous. We essentially have some teenager on 4chan trolling an entire audience of probably hundreds of thousands of individuals. They now believe Trump is our savior and the deep state wants to take him down. There are violent undertones to the entire conspiracy and I do worry they are going to turn into terrorists.

It's funny, I remember seeing the original thread on 4chan for QAnon, not sure if I was actually on the site or just saw a screencap. Anyways I thought it was kind of dumb and tolling, got a laugh and went on with my day. I think 2-3 days later I see QAnon being talked about on Fox News and CNN. My exact thought was "some guy in his basement must be thrilled that his shitpost on 4Chan landed on national TV". It's cra…

>Because if you read the actual conspiracy theory of QAnon it's batshit insane. The world order is being taken over by the Obama's and Democrats and the only guy that can save us is that dude that used to be on The Apprentice.

Minus the part where Donald Trump is the literal Messiah, most of QAnon's beliefs have been mainstream among the American right wing for years. The only real difference in that regard is the shifting of the Overton window, so what used to be the subject of fringe rants on AM talk radio is now more or less accepted in the mainstream.

Re: The QAnon Conspiracy Theory: A Security Threat in the Making?

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It seems like the media is talking about this more than anyone else at this point. There have literally been over 2000 articles written to debunk this. The content has been banned from reddit, twitter and other platforms. Why is everyone so vigilant to call it "dangerous"? Why not flat earth and chem trails? Why all the attention for this one thing?

This was a pretty good take on why QAnon is such a big issue: https://youtu.be/6k-w-2KIV7Q?t=4728

"q anon is a conspiracy theory incubator it's not like the other conspiracy theories out there it's not like pizzagate alone it's not like the epstein stuff alone it's an incubator for all these conspiracies so they all feed off of each other so even if you try to knock down one there's others to hold it up if you look at the vast amount of anti-vaxxers who just recently got into q anon around march and april of this year it's like a whole separate movement that was gigantic and huge and dangerous in its own right

basically combined with q anon to form something even more dangerous and you're going to see it with more of these separate conspiracy theory movements down the line and that's really what makes q anon so honestly horrific i mean you have conspiracy theorists who don't even they're not even on the same page percentage of q9 people believe uh uh rapper kennedy jfk is still alive or whatever and then another percentage thinks that's bullshit but it doesn't matter because they all come together for the prime reason that hell this is all stuff that's going to help trump and we believe in the main thing that all these different forces are coming together to stop trump but he's going to take them all down the"

Also a longer interview https://youtu.be/lf3xlx9K0DI

Re: The QAnon Conspiracy Theory: A Security Threat in the Making?

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It seems like the media is talking about this more than anyone else at this point. There have literally been over 2000 articles written to debunk this. The content has been banned from reddit, twitter and other platforms. Why is everyone so vigilant to call it "dangerous"? Why not flat earth and chem trails? Why all the attention for this one thing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Incidents It is spawning a fair bit of violence.

I read through that whole list, and the only thing that involved any actual violence was a mafia killing, which it wasn't clear actually had anything to do with Q.

I don't know anything about this Q stuff (I don't even know what they believe), and I'm certainly not endorsing it, but your link does not support your claim.

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