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Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by taspeotis » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:20 AM UTC

gaff33 wrote: post #27

clusterfish wrote: post #13

Charging people different prices based on factors they can't control, and in secret to boot, is just wrong. Whether it's age or race or eye color, it's wrong. Why are people so greedy that they need to push against such simple principles so hard?

What about car insurance? Is it ok to charge more to insure teenage drivers?

In Australia they don’t charge more on the policy, but if you have an accident your co-pay is higher if you are young, have had your license for fewer than X years, the car is high power e.g. sports car.

But if you don’t crash you pay the same as the next regular Joe.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by gambiting » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:20 AM UTC

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #26

skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

My issue with this is that these decisions aren't necessarily being made because of operating costs. It doesn't cost more to host a man than a woman.

Having too many men can impact the experience women have, and if they leave then the entire platform collapses. The cost to "host" a user is the same regardless of gender but platforms like these work only if the gender ratio is at least somewhat balanced - the fee seems to help with that, just like it does in a physical club(where it also doesn't cost any more to host a man than it does a woman).

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by dschuetz » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:21 AM UTC

One more reason not to use online dating platforms.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by draw_down » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:21 AM UTC

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #26

skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

My issue with this is that these decisions aren't necessarily being made because of operating costs. It doesn't cost more to host a man than a woman.

Yeah, you almost get the sense they aren’t running this business out of the kindness of their hearts.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by gambiting » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:22 AM UTC

gaff33 wrote: post #27

clusterfish wrote: post #13

Charging people different prices based on factors they can't control, and in secret to boot, is just wrong. Whether it's age or race or eye color, it's wrong. Why are people so greedy that they need to push against such simple principles so hard?

What about car insurance? Is it ok to charge more to insure teenage drivers?

No, it isn't, I've been making this argument for years. In all of EU it's illegal to charge more for insurance based on gender, it should also be illegal to charge more based on age. Only your actual driving record, type of car being insured and possibly location should be taken into account when calculating the premium.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by arketyp » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:23 AM UTC

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #26

skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

My issue with this is that these decisions aren't necessarily being made because of operating costs. It doesn't cost more to host a man than a woman.

More drinks will be bought if there is a certain ratio.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by gambiting » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:24 AM UTC

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #29

xd wrote: post #23

I've only done a quick bit of research but can't seem to find a clear list of protected characteristics in Oz like we have in the UK, age being one of them.. I don't use tinder but just looking up their pricing model it's £3.99 for under 28yo and £14.99 for 28yo and over in the UK... how is this not a breech of the Equality Act 2010?

I'm the last person to defend old men from discrimination (mostly because it's uncommon), but yeah this doesn't sound right to me.

Did you have to add the "white" in there? Was it definitely necessary or adding anything to this discussion?

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by aspenmayer » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:24 AM UTC

sasaf5 wrote: post #21

Not only this, at least last year (when I abandoned Tinder for good) they were charging women more for the "daily picks" feature (it selects top ranked profiles).

What does this feature do? Does it basically stack your match deck so high ranks are top pull every time? Really makes Tinder seem like a one-armed bandit. Either you pay and get quality folks on balance, due to ratings and such washing out the boys from the men, or you play your hand on randos. And people actually pay for this privilege?

What a world.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by est31 » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:24 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #32

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My issue with this is that these decisions aren't necessarily being made because of operating costs. It doesn't cost more to host a man than a woman.

Having too many men can impact the experience women have, and if they leave then the entire platform collapses. The cost to "host" a user is the same regardless of gender but platforms like these work only if the gender ratio is at least somewhat balanced - the fee seems to help with that, just like it does in a physical club(where it also doesn't cost any more to host a man than it does a woman).

Gender imbalance also negatively impacts the experience of the men: nobody wants too much competition.

Currently there are 3 men for every woman on Tinder [0].

[0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/975925/us-tinder-user-ra...

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by gkoberger » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 10:25 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #35

gaff33 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about car insurance? Is it ok to charge more to insure teenage drivers?

No, it isn't, I've been making this argument for years. In all of EU it's illegal to charge more for insurance based on gender, it should also be illegal to charge more based on age. Only your actual driving record, type of car being insured and possibly location should be taken into account when calculating the premium.

Couldn’t you argue that’s what’s happening? As in, would you support a lower rate for people with X years of no crashes? (Meaning teens wouldn’t be eligible because they just started driving)