Why are is there such a difference between countries?
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More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
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Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#32The graph is interesting when you zoom in, much more IPv6 use over the holiday period and also recently during the period of lockdown measures. I would guess the majority of IPv6 traffic comes from devices on 4G networks. More devices are on 4G when visiting family and friends over the Christmas period and when working remotely.
My ISP is still refusing to implement IPv6 :-( I don’t have it on 4G, either. edit: am I missing something? The graph shows total IPv6 is 29.86% (which is clearly less than 33.33…%)
You're missing the weekly peak/troughs.
The highest weekly peak so far is 33.42%, and the troughs are just below 30% at the moment. The last time the weekly peak was ~30% was in December last year.
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why use IPv6 if you are going to hand out IPv4 addresses? People know why. Even if a few really get 32's, it's PR. The endgame is the same. This is a critical path item for removing the ability to have 2 party value transfers. The power at stake is incalculably valuable.
What do you mean by " Even if a few really get 32's, it's PR."? The vast majority of IPv4 connections get an IPv4 IP (= a /32), CGNAT is pretty much only used by providers that don't have another choice and has various downsides for users too.
Obviously, it's temporary. Handing every possible IPv4 user 2^32 IPv6 addresses is a worse than pointless gesture. It's an 10^9 scale changing of the subject.
IPv4 not having enough addresses is why it's valuable. It's impossible to arm band every human with 32b.
EDIT: I'm comment limited for the night. @efzx: Seeing "google" in the same sentience with "does not have anything with tracking" is pretty good stuff.
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#34It's a perquisite for tagging individuals. IPv4 not having enough addresses is a good thing. With IPv6 identification (and therefore control) can be down to the person globally, but IPv4 forces NAT's. The inability to label all the things is a feature. NAT's are borders; they prevent fine grained censorship without larger consequences. $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i ipv6 # CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
It feels like Google has a dog in this fight.
Why can't Android devices connect to ipv4-only networks?
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#35It's a perquisite for tagging individuals. IPv4 not having enough addresses is a good thing. With IPv6 identification (and therefore control) can be down to the person globally, but IPv4 forces NAT's. The inability to label all the things is a feature. NAT's are borders; they prevent fine grained censorship without larger consequences. $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i ipv6 # CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
IPv6 still has NAT. There's public and private IPv6 addresses, same as IPv4. Google building their infrastructure around IPv6 does not have anything with tracking IPv6 users
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Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#36Good - if they continue like that soon fixed IPv4 addresses could become easier to come by
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#37Can someone let AWS know? I was annoyed to find out that lightsail does not support IPv6, in 2020...
And Google's own cloud servers
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#38It's a perquisite for tagging individuals. IPv4 not having enough addresses is a good thing. With IPv6 identification (and therefore control) can be down to the person globally, but IPv4 forces NAT's. The inability to label all the things is a feature. NAT's are borders; they prevent fine grained censorship without larger consequences. $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i ipv6 # CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
IPv6 still has NAT. There's public and private IPv6 addresses, same as IPv4. Google building their infrastructure around IPv6 does not have anything with tracking IPv6 users
IPv6 doesn't have NAT, it has different addresses for global and local scopes, but your OS never translates between these addresses and it doesn't need to keep a table of translations & connections, as you'd have with IPv4 and NAT.
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#39China is aiming for 100% in 2025 according to APNIC, so they've got some ways to go from the 0.53% seen by Google. Is the great firewall ipv4 only perhaps?
Google is blocked in China. So I guess not a lot of traffic is coming from Chinese IPs.
Where is the Chinese traffic Google is seeing coming from then?
I wonder if anyone is exempt from the Great Firewall? What about senior officials including Xi himself? I’m sure if he asked for unfiltered Internet he’d get it.
Re: More than 1/3 of all access to Google is now over IPv6
#40And yet, when I beg my google cloud rep for IPv6 addresses on instances (or on anything that isn’t the load balancer) I get told that it is not on the immediate roadmap.
The cloud providers have pushed back ipv6 adoption so hard imo. At least native ipv6 access.
I know they’ve thrown in some token support and you /can/ make something work; but compared to VPS providers which consistently deliver machines with IPv6 addresses by default- it’s a huge barrier to adoption. You have to really /want/ it, and most people don’t see the value. Unless it’s a backend for an iOS App.
It really frustrates me.