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I propose Gytenberg
or, widely accepted standard [in german and slavic-languages] way back then, 'v' instead of 'u', and vice versa
GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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I'm a big fan of standardebooks! They're doing fantastic work producing better ebooks from Project Gutenberg sources.
OP here, I found this website when I was looking for a way to get the updated version (with correction) of a PG (Project Gutenberg) book and all changes/diffs from the point that I scrape the book from PG website for my language learning side project: https://www.bilinual.com The bilinual Project also rebuild ebooks (modern HTML, PDF and open ePUB format) with better quality and readability( while it is not its prime…
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a big fan of standardebooks! They're doing fantastic work producing better ebooks from Project Gutenberg sources.
OP here, I found this website when I was looking for a way to get the updated version (with correction) of a PG (Project Gutenberg) book and all changes/diffs from the point that I scrape the book from PG website for my language learning side project: https://www.bilinual.com The bilinual Project also rebuild ebooks (modern HTML, PDF and open ePUB format) with better quality and readability( while it is not its prime…
* One of them 404ed: https://www.bilinual.com/download/30117fren-fr-en.pdf
* The other was full of problems: https://www.bilinual.com/download/16210fren-fr-en.pdf
For example, many words don't have translations at all, and those that do are often incorrect. This feels like a very rough machine translation? For example:
> et c'est surtout dans les paroisses riveraines du Saint-Laurent
You translate this
> and Ce east primarily in the · · some saint Laurence
While Google Translate gives
> and it is especially in the parishes bordering the St.Lawrence
If you're using machine translation, why not use a Google API that might give usable results at least? If that's not plausible, maybe you should try to get together a team of volunteers to manually translate these ebooks for language learners?
(I hope these suggestions are helpful, I'm not trying to be dismissive of your project.)
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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OP here, I found this website when I was looking for a way to get the updated version (with correction) of a PG (Project Gutenberg) book and all changes/diffs from the point that I scrape the book from PG website for my language learning side project: https://www.bilinual.com The bilinual Project also rebuild ebooks (modern HTML, PDF and open ePUB format) with better quality and readability( while it is not its prime…
Wow, they look awesome, thank you! (Learning spanish here)
'hermanos' is translated 'brethren' - super-archaic.
p8, 'dedicado' in 'te has dedicado a pintar?' is translated 'hardcore'.
'sí' in 'Que sí, hombre' is translated 'do', as in do-re-mi, I guess.
p5,11-12 has 'quieres/quiero repeatedly translated as "with friends like those who needs enemies". Which is just inexplicable. I can't imagine how that would happen.
Corrupted dictionary?
..and most of the trickiest words on a page aren't translated, maybe because not in your dictionary or they have 'lo' or 'se' appended.
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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Wow, they look awesome, thank you! (Learning spanish here)
Looking at Unamuno's Abel Sanchez.. 'hermanos' is translated 'brethren' - super-archaic. p8, 'dedicado' in 'te has dedicado a pintar?' is translated 'hardcore'. 'sí' in 'Que sí, hombre' is translated 'do', as in do-re-mi, I guess. p5,11-12 has 'quieres/quiero repeatedly translated as "with friends like those who needs enemies". Which is just inexplicable. I can't imagine how that would happen. Corrupted dictionary? .…
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Thanks, it would be great. I am curious to know why do they have CC license and not public domain?
We have this problem with Standard Ebooks. The number of people that say things are public domain without actually checking it is very high. A CC0 licence is an explicit grant of public domain status by the licensor, and hence the legal issues rest with them in the event of any problem. Public domain obviously can be ascertained, but if CC0 hasn’t been granted we rely on dated reproductions: basically a photograph of…
The difference between falsely claiming something is public domain and falsely claiming to grant a license to it under CC0 is going to be pretty minimal (and is likely result in little more than "please stop", blood and turnips and so on).
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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Looking at Unamuno's Abel Sanchez.. 'hermanos' is translated 'brethren' - super-archaic. p8, 'dedicado' in 'te has dedicado a pintar?' is translated 'hardcore'. 'sí' in 'Que sí, hombre' is translated 'do', as in do-re-mi, I guess. p5,11-12 has 'quieres/quiero repeatedly translated as "with friends like those who needs enemies". Which is just inexplicable. I can't imagine how that would happen. Corrupted dictionary? .…
Yeah, something is going very wrong. As if they were trying to tokenize html/pdf, pulling in a lot of extraneous characters/bytes, and using some sort of homebrew ML project to translate it. I don't know how else you'd get such bizarre results.
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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OP here, I found this website when I was looking for a way to get the updated version (with correction) of a PG (Project Gutenberg) book and all changes/diffs from the point that I scrape the book from PG website for my language learning side project: https://www.bilinual.com The bilinual Project also rebuild ebooks (modern HTML, PDF and open ePUB format) with better quality and readability( while it is not its prime…
I tried to pull up a couple of books on the front page to check out what you had, and * One of them 404ed: https://www.bilinual.com/download/30117fren-fr-en.pdf * The other was full of problems: https://www.bilinual.com/download/16210fren-fr-en.pdf For example, many words don't have translations at all, and those that do are often incorrect. This feels like a very rough machine translation? For example: > et c'est su…
1- 404 issue: I implemented the PDF generation recently and I noticed that WeasyPrint has issue with html files that have too many tags (our books have around 2*number_of_words tags in them). This is not a big issue and it will be fixed soon in the next iteration.
2- Using Google API: Google APIs and other translation tools are great for translating sentences. However, the problem with use of parallel texts for language learning is our brain laziness. After few pages, our brain looses its patient to solve the translation problems (critical thinking!?) and actually learn words and structure of sentences. The focus immediately goes toward translated sentences in your native language rather than the original text.
Personally, I learn a word for a life when I slow down and think about similar words, its root, and at the end looking it up in a dictionary. The process is valuable.
3- Team of volunteers: It is easier said than done. The functionality is present but I prefer to improve the suggestion engine as much as possible before I involve volunteers. Are you interested to join?
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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Wow, they look awesome, thank you! (Learning spanish here)
Looking at Unamuno's Abel Sanchez.. 'hermanos' is translated 'brethren' - super-archaic. p8, 'dedicado' in 'te has dedicado a pintar?' is translated 'hardcore'. 'sí' in 'Que sí, hombre' is translated 'do', as in do-re-mi, I guess. p5,11-12 has 'quieres/quiero repeatedly translated as "with friends like those who needs enemies". Which is just inexplicable. I can't imagine how that would happen. Corrupted dictionary? .…
"I can't imagine how that would happen." : Just as a hint, click on "translations" here:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/with_friends_like_these_who_n...
Re: GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the public domain
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OP here, I found this website when I was looking for a way to get the updated version (with correction) of a PG (Project Gutenberg) book and all changes/diffs from the point that I scrape the book from PG website for my language learning side project: https://www.bilinual.com The bilinual Project also rebuild ebooks (modern HTML, PDF and open ePUB format) with better quality and readability( while it is not its prime…
I tried to pull up a couple of books on the front page to check out what you had, and * One of them 404ed: https://www.bilinual.com/download/30117fren-fr-en.pdf * The other was full of problems: https://www.bilinual.com/download/16210fren-fr-en.pdf For example, many words don't have translations at all, and those that do are often incorrect. This feels like a very rough machine translation? For example: > et c'est su…
I prefer https://www.deepl.com/translator to Google.