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TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

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So how will this work? Will there be 2 apps? Tiktok US and Tiktok for the rest of the world?

Or even a TikTok China and TikTok for the rest of the world? (Considering the ban of TikTok in India and the perceived threat of TikTok amongst several other countries as well.)

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

#32

At what point do the big tech companies see the real threat of Trump and begin actively campaigning against him? Feels like they have immense power if they decided to act politically.

I don't know why this is getting downvoted; companies in other sectors (e.g. oil) get involved in US politics regularly. But there's little precedent for media companies to take action in US politics overtly. (IANAL, but I suspect there are legal impediments as well). Taking a political stand, or providing support for one side, might force big tech companies to resolve the ambiguity as to whether they're media compan…

> But there's little precedent for media companies to take action in US politics overtly.

Isn't this pretty much one half of their business, the other being advertising?

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#33
Trump seems intent on this because of the Tulsa Rally fiasco. But at what point does it backfire on him? Tens of millions of pissed off 18yr olds could easily sway the election.

Meanwhile, Microsoft has quietly avoided the anti-trust spotlight recently yet has acquired github, LinkedIn, and now a social network that could rival Facebook. Satya Nadella is a genius.

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

#34

At what point do the big tech companies see the real threat of Trump and begin actively campaigning against him? Feels like they have immense power if they decided to act politically.

I don't know why this is getting downvoted; companies in other sectors (e.g. oil) get involved in US politics regularly. But there's little precedent for media companies to take action in US politics overtly. (IANAL, but I suspect there are legal impediments as well). Taking a political stand, or providing support for one side, might force big tech companies to resolve the ambiguity as to whether they're media compan…

> But there's little precedent for media companies to take action in US politics overtly.

Newspapers routinely make political endorsements, that is overt.

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

#35
post #31
post #25

So how will this work? Will there be 2 apps? Tiktok US and Tiktok for the rest of the world?

Or even a TikTok China and TikTok for the rest of the world? (Considering the ban of TikTok in India and the perceived threat of TikTok amongst several other countries as well.)

> Or even a TikTok China and TikTok for the rest of the world?

TikTok is banned in China, Douyin (also owned by ByteDance) is effectively “TikTok China”.

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

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post #31
post #25

So how will this work? Will there be 2 apps? Tiktok US and Tiktok for the rest of the world?

Or even a TikTok China and TikTok for the rest of the world? (Considering the ban of TikTok in India and the perceived threat of TikTok amongst several other countries as well.)

"TikTok China" exists already, it's Douyin. It was there first (2016). Bytedance created TikTok as "international" Douyin in 2017, then merged it with musical.ly.

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah and I guess it makes sense in the aspect that they're trying to survive however they can.

That seems like a bit of an overreaction on the company’s part though, doesn’t it? It’s not at all clear that the president had a legal avenue to ban the service, and he has certainly said a lot of outlandish things that don’t come to pass.

It seems less about the app itself than it does about China. It's so passive aggressive it reminds me of middle school.

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

#38

Trump seems intent on this because of the Tulsa Rally fiasco. But at what point does it backfire on him? Tens of millions of pissed off 18yr olds could easily sway the election. Meanwhile, Microsoft has quietly avoided the anti-trust spotlight recently yet has acquired github, LinkedIn, and now a social network that could rival Facebook. Satya Nadella is a genius.

So you’re condoning foreign election interference now? Which is it? Pick a side.

Re: TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U.S. deal – sources

#39
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or even a TikTok China and TikTok for the rest of the world? (Considering the ban of TikTok in India and the perceived threat of TikTok amongst several other countries as well.)

> Or even a TikTok China and TikTok for the rest of the world? TikTok is banned in China, Douyin (also owned by ByteDance) is effectively “TikTok China”.

Interesting. Thank you for clearing that up.
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