I've been getting deep into the home office ergonomics hole now that I'll be working from home indefinitely. There's a real danger here - I generally pride myself as someone who is conscientious of consumerist tendencies, but it's become clear that my drive for better ergonomics is no longer about the actual facilitation of work or avoidance of injury. I have spent more time researching ergonomic setups than could ev…
ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
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Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#32Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#33Why does it need to contain an actual ARM processor?
Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#34Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#35There isn't anything this does that the ErgoDox-EZ doesn't do, besides the adjustable thumb cluster and apparent build quality.
I wouldn't call this a next-generation ergonomic keyboard unless it also had integrated pointing device options like the UHK has.
Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#36Why does it need to contain an actual ARM processor?
Need to? It doesn't. Why might users care? Well, the kinds of people who are into custom keyboards often use custom firmware too... while this keyboard advertises QMK support, if I don't like QMK and want to use something else, which chips are inside matters. Making this even more concrete, I am in the market for some new keyboards, and at least one of them is one I'd like to write my own firmware for. Rust is far mo…
The jump from that to this ARMv5 CPU is similar to that from this ARMv5 to an Intel Xeon. And sure enough, if someone were to build a keyboard with an Intel Xeon, you could also program that from Rust. But the question still remains: why would anybody do that ?
Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Need to? It doesn't. Why might users care? Well, the kinds of people who are into custom keyboards often use custom firmware too... while this keyboard advertises QMK support, if I don't like QMK and want to use something else, which chips are inside matters. Making this even more concrete, I am in the market for some new keyboards, and at least one of them is one I'd like to write my own firmware for. Rust is far mo…
I think OP meant "Why does this keyboard need so much computing power". Most keyboards you can program use an AVR chip, which is more than enough, and you can also program that from Rust. The jump from that to this ARMv5 CPU is similar to that from this ARMv5 to an Intel Xeon. And sure enough, if someone were to build a keyboard with an Intel Xeon, you could also program that from Rust. But the question still remains…
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That's correct, yes. I guess I didn't say that explicitly, but that's another decent reason to advertise this, it's not exactly the norm.
(And for my personal quest, the latest Rust nightlies do work on AVR!)
Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#38Why does it need to contain an actual ARM processor?
Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#39Neat! If you're interested in this kind of thing, I recommend also checking out the Kinesis Advantage.
I've had an Advantage as my daily driver for 14 years. I've only ever had to replace the rest pads.
It's a fantastic and VERY VERY comfortable keyboard, but you do have a little bit of a learning curve due to the unusual layout.
It's also wired and has no backlight, but simple is sometimes better.
Re: ZSA Moonlander: A next-generation ergonomic keyboard
#40I've been getting deep into the home office ergonomics hole now that I'll be working from home indefinitely. There's a real danger here - I generally pride myself as someone who is conscientious of consumerist tendencies, but it's become clear that my drive for better ergonomics is no longer about the actual facilitation of work or avoidance of injury. I have spent more time researching ergonomic setups than could ev…