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How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

#31

I'm not sure how I feel about the screenshot at the end, showing that various policy makers also have their personal information being sold. I guess the information is out there, and doing so also makes it definitively personal for the policy makers / enforcers involved. That said, the policy makers / enforcers may be genuinely hamstrung. The US imposes its laws globally because of it's status as a global reserve cur…

> trading in USD requires the transaction to route via the US Is this correct? How's that enforced? Say, I have a company in Poland which sells some goods for a million dollars to another company in Poland. We both have USD accounts in Polish banks and the transfer is between these accounts. How does the money route via the US?

The bank will either have a presence in the US itself, or it'll have a partner that does that it'll route the transaction through.

If you've done a USD transfer, it'll most likely be a SWIFT transfer, and you can ask your bank for the SWIFT routing log. You'll most likely see an NYC bank (or NYC branch of your bank) in the middle.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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post #8

When are we going to admit that GDPR is a failure? Asserting a bunch of rights around personal privacy is great, but I've yet to see any compelling evidence that the relevant courts and bureocracies are capable of enforcing the law effectively. EVERYBODY is cheating. Every time this is brought up on HN, the response is to wait for when the big fines start coming. It's been two years. They're not coming.

The larger fines are starting to trickle through[0], remember EU bureaucracy is usually less about flashy cases than US and more of giving people the tools to do the right thing. [0]: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

I just read a bit on that site:

> The private person used a dashcam to make recordings of public road traffic and then published them on YouTube as a compilation.

What a PATHETIC thing this GDPR is. Fully agree that we should admit that GDPR is a massive failure (who would have thought!)

Greetings from a European.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

#33

I'm not sure how I feel about the screenshot at the end, showing that various policy makers also have their personal information being sold. I guess the information is out there, and doing so also makes it definitively personal for the policy makers / enforcers involved. That said, the policy makers / enforcers may be genuinely hamstrung. The US imposes its laws globally because of it's status as a global reserve cur…

> trading in USD requires the transaction to route via the US Is this correct? How's that enforced? Say, I have a company in Poland which sells some goods for a million dollars to another company in Poland. We both have USD accounts in Polish banks and the transfer is between these accounts. How does the money route via the US?

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Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

#34
post #20
post #8

When are we going to admit that GDPR is a failure? Asserting a bunch of rights around personal privacy is great, but I've yet to see any compelling evidence that the relevant courts and bureocracies are capable of enforcing the law effectively. EVERYBODY is cheating. Every time this is brought up on HN, the response is to wait for when the big fines start coming. It's been two years. They're not coming.

The larger fines are starting to trickle through[0], remember EU bureaucracy is usually less about flashy cases than US and more of giving people the tools to do the right thing. [0]: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

It's 350 cases in two years in an economic zone of 450m people though.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

#35
This same BS is perpetuated by YC backed Apollo.io by simply scraping public LinkedIn profiles & then masking asterisked emails & numbers(usually your company public numbers) & asking people to sign up.

And when you do request them to remove the same, they ask you to provide ID proof. As if one would provide the same to a company which didn't take your consent for the initial profile data either.

I somehow managed to get hold of the CEO's mail ID got mine removed. But I can only imagine what everyone else would have to do when they want to control their web-presence.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

#36

I'm not sure how I feel about the screenshot at the end, showing that various policy makers also have their personal information being sold. I guess the information is out there, and doing so also makes it definitively personal for the policy makers / enforcers involved. That said, the policy makers / enforcers may be genuinely hamstrung. The US imposes its laws globally because of it's status as a global reserve cur…

> trading in USD requires the transaction to route via the US Is this correct? How's that enforced? Say, I have a company in Poland which sells some goods for a million dollars to another company in Poland. We both have USD accounts in Polish banks and the transfer is between these accounts. How does the money route via the US?

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Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Good riddance

They'll still be operating, and serving you ads, just beyond the reach of EU laws.

well, then this is the equivalent of computer hacking I guess and I better hope non of the adserving pages has an office in europe

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> trading in USD requires the transaction to route via the US Is this correct? How's that enforced? Say, I have a company in Poland which sells some goods for a million dollars to another company in Poland. We both have USD accounts in Polish banks and the transfer is between these accounts. How does the money route via the US?

The bank will either have a presence in the US itself, or it'll have a partner that does that it'll route the transaction through. If you've done a USD transfer, it'll most likely be a SWIFT transfer, and you can ask your bank for the SWIFT routing log. You'll most likely see an NYC bank (or NYC branch of your bank) in the middle.

I'm not sure about this. I think you're conflating SWIFT transfers with USD transfers

USD is fully convertible https://www.kantox.com/en/glossary/fully-convertible-currenc...

I can "take dollars out of my pocket" and pay you without going through the US no problem

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The larger fines are starting to trickle through[0], remember EU bureaucracy is usually less about flashy cases than US and more of giving people the tools to do the right thing. [0]: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

It's 350 cases in two years in an economic zone of 450m people though.

350 publicized cases, most cases are too small for the public to take note of.

This website contains a list and overview of fines and penalties which data protection authorities within the EU have imposed under the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR, DSGVO). Our aim is to keep this list as up-to-date as possible. Since not all fines are made public, this list can of course never be complete, which is why we appreciate any indication of further GDPR fines and penalties.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

#40
post #8

When are we going to admit that GDPR is a failure? Asserting a bunch of rights around personal privacy is great, but I've yet to see any compelling evidence that the relevant courts and bureocracies are capable of enforcing the law effectively. EVERYBODY is cheating. Every time this is brought up on HN, the response is to wait for when the big fines start coming. It's been two years. They're not coming.

So you say, the intent is good, but the execution fails. What is your proposal that serves the same purpose?
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