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You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by leoc »

gizmo686 wrote: post #18
hinkley wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to scapegoat, but there are a bunch of odd things the US does because boomers like things the way they've always been. Why were a bunch of new Christmas songs written 60 years ago and barely a song a decade has been added to the repertoire since? George Michael is dead, and Mariah Carey seemed touch and go for a while, and those are pretty much the last two people to create a successful Christmas song (and the…

US copyright terms: 1978+: Author's life + 70 years. 95 years if work-for-hire 1967-1977: 95 years 1924 - 1963: 28 years if never renewed. Maximum 95 years. Pre-1924 - All copywrights have expired

That doesn't seem to be the cause. Competition from out-of-copyright traditional or nineteenth-century songs didn't prevent pop songwriters from having new Christmas hits until the post-Carey slump, and most of those commercial Christmas hits haven't gone out of copyright themselves yet.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by Razengan »

Ruthalas wrote: post #30
Razengan wrote: post #20

Must a calendar only represent the physical positions of heavenly bodies? What happens after we propagate to other planets? Why should there be only one calendar? Why can’t we have, say, a Social Calendar alongside a Astronomical Calendar? We could have a sane, logical calendar with even and regular divisions for determining working days, holidays, financial calculations and political durations etc. And there could b…

I tend to agree with the concept, but you'd probably have to address holidays that are season-specific. Perhaps 'Christmas is always in the third winter time-block', or something to that effect.

Yes, “floating” holidays are already a thing, so some of them would just have to be tied to the astronomical calendar instead of the social calendar.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by zzo38computer »

I like the solar hijri calendar (not to be confused with the lunar hijri). Better than anno domini would be a anno mundi system, but to make a new scientific anno mundi system rather than the old way, due directly to the Earth going around the Sun, because that is how the year is considered, so to count years starting from that, too. For time keeping, use local time based on mean solar time, with no daylight saving time (I hate daylight saving time), with 12:00 being mean solar noon. Perhaps make half hour time zones. Continue using UTC with a "Z" suffix when you need to use the time that isn't local time (and if you do need to explicitly note local time, you can use a "J" suffix, or use the + and - and number of hours if you need to specify the timezone explicitly too). My idea for dealing with leap seconds in Unix time is to allow the number of nanoseconds to exceed one billion during a leap second; at all other times, the number of nanoseconds is less than one billion. Don't be over-civilization.

My ideas do perhaps have some (maybe most, or even all) of the problems mentioned in that document, but nevertheless, this is my ideas.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by patrickthebold »

zzo38computer wrote: post #33

I like the solar hijri calendar (not to be confused with the lunar hijri). Better than anno domini would be a anno mundi system, but to make a new scientific anno mundi system rather than the old way, due directly to the Earth going around the Sun, because that is how the year is considered, so to count years starting from that, too. For time keeping, use local time based on mean solar time, with no daylight saving t…

I'm a big proponent of continuous time zones, so that noon drifts ever so slightly as position changes.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by onionisafruit »

mhh__ wrote: post #29
hinkley wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to scapegoat, but there are a bunch of odd things the US does because boomers like things the way they've always been. Why were a bunch of new Christmas songs written 60 years ago and barely a song a decade has been added to the repertoire since? George Michael is dead, and Mariah Carey seemed touch and go for a while, and those are pretty much the last two people to create a successful Christmas song (and the…

What's wrong with do they know it's Christmas?

Aside from being unpleasant to listen to, it’s the perfect Christmas song.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by cecilpl2 »

patrickthebold wrote: post #34
zzo38computer wrote: post #33

I like the solar hijri calendar (not to be confused with the lunar hijri). Better than anno domini would be a anno mundi system, but to make a new scientific anno mundi system rather than the old way, due directly to the Earth going around the Sun, because that is how the year is considered, so to count years starting from that, too. For time keeping, use local time based on mean solar time, with no daylight saving t…

I'm a big proponent of continuous time zones, so that noon drifts ever so slightly as position changes. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Definitely a no-brainer, I'd say.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by Natsu »

Razengan wrote: post #20

Must a calendar only represent the physical positions of heavenly bodies? What happens after we propagate to other planets? Why should there be only one calendar? Why can’t we have, say, a Social Calendar alongside a Astronomical Calendar? We could have a sane, logical calendar with even and regular divisions for determining working days, holidays, financial calculations and political durations etc. And there could b…

> What happens after we propagate to other planets?

Relativity will become a pain and we'll have significant lag on communications to the tune of several minutes within the Sol star system and years for anywhere else, so you'd end up using asynchronous communication like email, workdays would be based on local conditions (and likely not map to a local day on some planets), etc.

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by avs733 »

I'm surprised to see no mention in here of the international fixed calendar [0](sometimes called the 'Kodak calendar').

Kodak adopted it in part because Georgia Eastman (founder) was a big proponant, but also because for corporate scheduling the regularity made things like maintenance and long run chemical/manufacturing processes simpler to plan.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

Re: You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)

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Post by defen »

patrickthebold wrote: post #34
zzo38computer wrote: post #33

I like the solar hijri calendar (not to be confused with the lunar hijri). Better than anno domini would be a anno mundi system, but to make a new scientific anno mundi system rather than the old way, due directly to the Earth going around the Sun, because that is how the year is considered, so to count years starting from that, too. For time keeping, use local time based on mean solar time, with no daylight saving t…

I'm a big proponent of continuous time zones, so that noon drifts ever so slightly as position changes. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

(x) I shouldn't need to adjust my wristwatch every few miles
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