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New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by diffeomorphism »

toyg wrote: post #27
fk6aaa545c wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds great and good to see AMD cpu as intel has been very problematic in last few years (especially on linux, but windows as well), 32gigs ram for that money is great when thinkpad t495s comes with 8gig ram soldered on the board. But where is the trackpoint?

The trackpoint is a patented IBM/Lenovo thing, isn't it...?

For the most part, but for example HP Elitebooks and some Dell models have copies of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick

However, the non-Lenovo/IBM models seem to be somewhat worse (probably for patent reasons).

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by dTal »

toyg wrote: post #29
lorenzhs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, some manufacturers claim outrageous battery life numbers that noone has ever managed to achieve outside of a lab. But my 2017 X1 Carbon with a 57Wh battery does manage close to 10 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux). Macbooks' running times are apparently pretty close to what Apple claims, too. But 5 hours advertised running time is just bad, even if it actually manages that much.

> 0 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux) There is Linux and there is Linux. Do you run KDE? It's basically the heaviest DE around, so it's bound to impact power-management.

I don't think that's true anymore. Gnome 3 is heavier these days, and Plasma even beats XFCE on some metrics. It's actually quite easy on the battery.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-...

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by gnusty_gnurc »

toyg wrote: post #29
lorenzhs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, some manufacturers claim outrageous battery life numbers that noone has ever managed to achieve outside of a lab. But my 2017 X1 Carbon with a 57Wh battery does manage close to 10 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux). Macbooks' running times are apparently pretty close to what Apple claims, too. But 5 hours advertised running time is just bad, even if it actually manages that much.

> 0 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux) There is Linux and there is Linux. Do you run KDE? It's basically the heaviest DE around, so it's bound to impact power-management.

I think that’s an out-dated viewpoint. KDE is relatively light now afaik.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by pjmlp »

dTal wrote: post #32
toyg wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 0 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux) There is Linux and there is Linux. Do you run KDE? It's basically the heaviest DE around, so it's bound to impact power-management.

I don't think that's true anymore. Gnome 3 is heavier these days, and Plasma even beats XFCE on some metrics. It's actually quite easy on the battery. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-...

I am in the process of replacing an harddisk, so I evaluated the GNOME, XFCE and KDE flavous of Ubuntu LTS with live editions.

GNOME has really progressed since the 18.04 LTS days, but I am still on the edge of going back to it (currently I use XFCE).

JavaScript everywhere since version 3 and adamant refusal to support shaded windows is what puts me off. If I wanted that I would be using ChromeOS.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by solidninja »

tabasko wrote: post #8
throwaway72220 wrote: post #2

I have never heard of Slimbook and most of what I can find on Google is in Spanish. Are they any good? Do they design the laptops or are they rebranded like System76's Clevo made laptops?

Someone at Phoronix[1] forums suspected it to be made by TongFang. Seems to be same laptop which Tuxedo[3] is also selling. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoron... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/hunyv6/my_mechr... [3] https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Note...

Also sold as the Schenker Via 15 Pro [1]. Wonder if it will also come with a 4K OLED display option (Tuxedo will also offer one on the configurator within a week).

[1] https://bestware.com/en/schenker-via-15-pro.html

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by pantaloony »

dTal wrote: post #32
toyg wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 0 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux) There is Linux and there is Linux. Do you run KDE? It's basically the heaviest DE around, so it's bound to impact power-management.

I don't think that's true anymore. Gnome 3 is heavier these days, and Plasma even beats XFCE on some metrics. It's actually quite easy on the battery. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-...

This is obvious running on weak hardware or constrained VMs. Modern Gnome is nearly unusable, while KDE is fine down to fairly low specs, especially if you dial down the animations.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by pantaloony »

rcthompson wrote: post #13
lorenzhs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, some manufacturers claim outrageous battery life numbers that noone has ever managed to achieve outside of a lab. But my 2017 X1 Carbon with a 57Wh battery does manage close to 10 hours of actual light-ish use (with Linux). Macbooks' running times are apparently pretty close to what Apple claims, too. But 5 hours advertised running time is just bad, even if it actually manages that much.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I've never come close to the battery life numbers that Apple claims.

Webapp or otherwise JS-and-media-heavy browsing in anything other than Safari easily takes 2hrs off my battery life on a MacBook. Chrome and FF are power hogs.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by [deleted] »

baybal2 wrote: post #25
tomp wrote: post #14

Wow, this laptop is serious business, it's the only less-than-15-inch laptop I could find with 32GB of RAM below 1500 EUR (it's only 1069!). Does anyone have any experience with these ones, any reviews?

The thing is, a lion share of all AMD notebooks on the market is developed, and manufactured by a single OEM. If you look inside recent lenovos, or huawei laptops: scratch, scratch, and you see Qinghua Tongfang logos on PCB, and body parts. The PCB design, and parts list is nearly identical. Very few big brand companies have in-house engineering for laptops, and the few who have, have it for Intel only.

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Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by oDahjie0 »

missosoup wrote: post #28
ddorian43 wrote: post #4

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This is too real. Especially captcha hell with absolutely no way out if you get rotated a 'bad' IP.

This is a systematic problem when you use tor.

I would really like a journalist to investigate this, by the way. The goal of a captcha is to prove you're human. What is the goal of 10 captcha in a row?

I can make two hypothesis:

1. it's meant to discourage humans from using privacy preserving tools like tor, so it would be basically an agressive action to prevent them to access the content and force them to abandon their privacy tools

2. it could be a mean to identify the user by doing behavioral fingerprinting, by checking their movement speed, time of pattern recognition, etc, based on multiple inputs.

I can't think of a case where such practice is not malicious and would not require scrutiny.

Re: New KDE Slimbook launched with Ryzan-4000 series processor

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Post by chupasaurus »

pantaloony wrote: post #36
dTal wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's true anymore. Gnome 3 is heavier these days, and Plasma even beats XFCE on some metrics. It's actually quite easy on the battery. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-...

This is obvious running on weak hardware or constrained VMs. Modern Gnome is nearly unusable, while KDE is fine down to fairly low specs, especially if you dial down the animations.

It was like this on Plasma 4 after it had stabilized also.
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