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Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by userbinator »

gruturo wrote: post #20
supernova87a wrote: post #10

I love how the idea of Japanese conscientiousness has become almost a meme for how we wish companies were run. Other examples you've probably seen come across the webs: -- Hotel apologizes in advance for a brief 1 minute planned disruption of in-room internet at 4am https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+hotel+internet+apol... -- Japanese train company issues apology for train leaving 20 seconds early https://www.g…

To be honest, a train leaving early SUCKS. You show up on time, and you find out you missed it. Maybe the next one is in 40 minutes, maybe it's the next day. (I realize 20 seconds early isn't that bad, but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late)

but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late

Unless you have a tight next connection, in which case leaving late often means arriving late too, and thus missing that one.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by reidjs »

simias wrote: post #27
vsareto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They even give you a note if the train is late: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_certificate

We have that in France as well, I assumed it was common everywhere. Otherwise how do you justify yourself to your employer/school/whatever if you're late because your commute took one hour more than usual because of something completely out of your control?

Does someone actually care enough to check the slip? The few times I've been late due to things like this (flat bike tire, crazy traffic, train delay, whatever) my boss was just like ...ok try not to let it happen again and possibly documented it somewhere. I have been salaried for the most part, maybe if you're hourly you might get docked the time. When I have had someone under me and they're late once in a while I don't really care. (USA)

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by 1-more »

simias wrote: post #27
vsareto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They even give you a note if the train is late: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_certificate

We have that in France as well, I assumed it was common everywhere. Otherwise how do you justify yourself to your employer/school/whatever if you're late because your commute took one hour more than usual because of something completely out of your control?

When I worked in midtown Manhattan, NYC I could show up basically whenever as a salaried engineer, but the administrative staff of our office were paid hourly and scheduled to show up at a certain time. They also all lived further out with more transfers so more chances of delay on the subway. The answer from their boss was "plan that into your commute" even though the variance could be 40 minutes for a real delay. Perverse!

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by ars »

thetinguy wrote: post #16
abeppu wrote: post #7

I've never worked in a context that made complex physical goods. Is it surprising to others that they even know which specific 152 cameras were over-plasticized?

The f6 is high end low volume product. They only make and sell a couple hundred a year.

Looks like it costs $2,549. Which doesn't really seem profitable in volumes that low.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by zorpner »

wishinghand wrote: post #28
formerly_proven wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still occasionally use a now over 40 years old Nikon FE that, despite having never been serviced as far as I can tell, still works flawlessly. It even does some things better than even the most modern DSLRs, it can, for example automatically expose exposures several minutes long correctly (far outside spec, but works). Impeccable quality. The old Ai-S lenses, too, entirely made from glass, brass, aluminium and some…

Cement? As in some sort of plastic cement?

Most likely one or another optical cement, for joining lenses into a lens group, for example: https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/661086-using-norland-uv-c...

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by pboutros »

userbinator wrote: post #31
gruturo wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, a train leaving early SUCKS. You show up on time, and you find out you missed it. Maybe the next one is in 40 minutes, maybe it's the next day. (I realize 20 seconds early isn't that bad, but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late)

but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late Unless you have a tight next connection, in which case leaving late often means arriving late too, and thus missing that one.

Think of how much worse tight connections are when your connection leaves earlier than it was supposed to!

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by jaChEWAg »

gruturo wrote: post #20
supernova87a wrote: post #10

I love how the idea of Japanese conscientiousness has become almost a meme for how we wish companies were run. Other examples you've probably seen come across the webs: -- Hotel apologizes in advance for a brief 1 minute planned disruption of in-room internet at 4am https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+hotel+internet+apol... -- Japanese train company issues apology for train leaving 20 seconds early https://www.g…

To be honest, a train leaving early SUCKS. You show up on time, and you find out you missed it. Maybe the next one is in 40 minutes, maybe it's the next day. (I realize 20 seconds early isn't that bad, but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late)

You think 20 seconds is a big deal? I urge you to try the NYC subway system once. That's all I'm going to say

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by wtallis »

dayjobpork wrote: post #23

Meanwhile Pentax is still avoiding the issue of multiple models dying from cheap apature solonoids.

I found out about that issue the hard way last week. Pictures started coming out too dark, and searching online quickly revealed that it's a well-known issue and that a class action lawsuit was filed back in May. Repairing it was pretty straightforward, but sourcing a replacement part from before production moved from Japan to China was unpleasantly expensive.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by frostburg »

reidjs wrote: post #32
simias wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have that in France as well, I assumed it was common everywhere. Otherwise how do you justify yourself to your employer/school/whatever if you're late because your commute took one hour more than usual because of something completely out of your control?

Does someone actually care enough to check the slip? The few times I've been late due to things like this (flat bike tire, crazy traffic, train delay, whatever) my boss was just like ...ok try not to let it happen again and possibly documented it somewhere. I have been salaried for the most part, maybe if you're hourly you might get docked the time. When I have had someone under me and they're late once in a while I…

In schools with minors there may be liability reasons. I used to have a somewhat unreliable commute, so my school was exempted from being legally responsible for my wellbeing for a few minutes after what would have been normal.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by mauvehaus »

wishinghand wrote: post #28
formerly_proven wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still occasionally use a now over 40 years old Nikon FE that, despite having never been serviced as far as I can tell, still works flawlessly. It even does some things better than even the most modern DSLRs, it can, for example automatically expose exposures several minutes long correctly (far outside spec, but works). Impeccable quality. The old Ai-S lenses, too, entirely made from glass, brass, aluminium and some…

Cement? As in some sort of plastic cement?

Optical cement. Traditionally, Canadian Balsam would have been used, but there are newer adhesives that are apparently easier. I bet UV cured is a lot more practical in a production setting. See this article about using balsam to repair a doublet:

http://forum.mflenses.com/re-cementing-doublet-elements-with...

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