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Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

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Post by danesparza »

"Much of the core code on the site dated back to 2009-2010 and was written by Past Me, a vindictive, inscrutable nemesis who devoted his life to sabotaging Present Me.

Doing this on a live system is like performing kidney transplants on a playing mariachi band. The best case is that no one notices a change in the music; you chloroform the players one at a time and try to keep a steady hand while the band plays on. The worst case scenario is that the music stops and there is no way to unfix what you broke, just an angry mob. It is very scary."

OMG. I think I stopped and laughed for a solid 30 seconds when I read this.

I don't think I've ever felt so "seen" in my whole 25 years as a programmer.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#32

Post by washicalendar »

Can you all share your workflow/use cases with this and other bookmarking services?

I’m geniounly curious because the way I treat bookmarks is that they are temporary links I wanna go back to, so they all end up being deleted sooner rather than later. When I want to visit a website I just type in the website’s name in my browser and either let autocomplete do its magic, or just let it take me to Google where I tap on the first link. The idea of keeping bookmarks saved and organized/tagged is alien to me.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#33

Post by aglionby »

washicalendar wrote: post #32

Can you all share your workflow/use cases with this and other bookmarking services? I’m geniounly curious because the way I treat bookmarks is that they are temporary links I wanna go back to, so they all end up being deleted sooner rather than later. When I want to visit a website I just type in the website’s name in my browser and either let autocomplete do its magic, or just let it take me to Google where I tap on…

I have two use cases. The first is to keep track of interesting articles I find and plausibly want to refer back to in the future. A 3rd party browser extension and mobile app make saving very easy, and then I tag each item with a high-level category. This is also pretty painless, and brings a lot of value (otherwise you just have an unsorted collection of links - not helpful). An example is my 'long reads' tag https://pinboard.in/u:guyaglionby/t:long-read/. The 'unread' feature is also useful here - I've got >10 long reads banked for when I'm looking for things to do.

The second is as a kind of mechanism to give myself permission to close a bunch of tabs every time they accumulate. Each is _obviously_ open for a good reason and I may want to read it at some point, so sticking it on pinboard is a nice way of shoving them elsewhere. I don't save everything - curation is important (in the same way as with tagging). Lots of what remains are things that may be useful for me in the future but are not immediately, like design guides https://pinboard.in/u:guyaglionby/t:design/. Some of these things I leave as 'unread'; others that feel more like reference material I mark as 'read' immediately so as not to have them in my to-read queue.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#34

Post by wingerlang »

huhtenberg wrote: post #19
dredmorbius wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 years: https://web.archive.org/web/20110709213326/https://blog.pinb... 3 years: https://web.archive.org/web/20120713030912/http://blog.pinbo... 4 years (broken HTML in the elevenversary post): https://blog.pinboard.in/2013/07/pinboard_is_four_years_old/ 5 years (broken HTML in the elevenversary post): https://blog.pinboard.in/2014/07/pinboard_turns_five/ 6--7 and 10 are valid. Nine is apparently Right Out.

> Nine Something happened in 2018. There are no stats for that year too.

> Every year when I don't forget I try to publish the same stats

This implies he just forgot about it.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#35

Post by [deleted] »

techntoke wrote: post #18

Would love to see a Go-based bookmarking server (no JavaScript) and CLI/ncurses app that uses yaml/toml/json files for bookmarks: google: tags: - search engine url: https://google.com duckduckgo: tags: - search engine url: https://duckduckgo.com

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Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#36

Post by cpach »

bachmeier wrote: post #21
thaumaturgy wrote: post #12

Pinboard is my secret weapon for those obnoxious lists of citations I sometimes get to spackle onto the end of comments on the internet. I've been on there since December 27, 2010 (Merry Christmas to me), and currently have 8,698 bookmarks across 1,544 different tags. I'd have a few hundred more if I could hurry up and transfer all the open tabs from ios safari. ...so I'm genuinely worried about those declining user…

> ...so I'm genuinely worried about those declining user numbers My story might be relevant. I only recently learned about Pinboard. $22/year isn't terrible, but it's just a bookmarking service. Free trial? Nope - you need to pull out your credit card and fork over $22. You get seven days to request a refund. (Will I actually get it? No idea who's holding my money.) He's happy to boast about competitors disappearing,…

To me it’s definitely worth the price. Dunno why he doesn’t do trials though. Maybe it’s not worth the hassle? Those interested in the service can get a good feeling for it by looking at the product tour and recent bookmarks. And if you sign up and don’t like it then $22 is not that much money[1]. (No idea if he does refunds or not.)

[1] In a Western country that is. I know $22 can be a lot of money depending on the circumstances.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#37

Post by flobosg »

danesparza wrote: post #31

"Much of the core code on the site dated back to 2009-2010 and was written by Past Me, a vindictive, inscrutable nemesis who devoted his life to sabotaging Present Me. Doing this on a live system is like performing kidney transplants on a playing mariachi band. The best case is that no one notices a change in the music; you chloroform the players one at a time and try to keep a steady hand while the band plays on. Th…

Maciej is an outstanding writer. I recommend reading his blog (https://idlewords.com/) if you haven't already.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#38

Post by mcherm »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #12

Pinboard is my secret weapon for those obnoxious lists of citations I sometimes get to spackle onto the end of comments on the internet. I've been on there since December 27, 2010 (Merry Christmas to me), and currently have 8,698 bookmarks across 1,544 different tags. I'd have a few hundred more if I could hurry up and transfer all the open tabs from ios safari. ...so I'm genuinely worried about those declining user…

> currently have 8,698 bookmarks across 1,544 different tags

I'm at 17,614 bookmarks 2,530 tags. And it's incredibly valuable to be able to go back and find things, even things I bookmarked and categorized a long time ago.

> so I'm genuinely worried about those declining user numbers.

I agree. In fact, that was the second thing I noticed, right after the declining revenue numbers. Earlier this year I went ahead and paid for 5 years of archiving service (my account predates the switch away from a one-time payment so basic bookmarking is free) partly because I trust maciej to still be around in 5 years but mostly because I wanted to be sure I'm supporting the site.

I STRONGLY want this to be profitable and successful because it is such a valuable service.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#39

Post by AJRF »

cpach wrote: post #36
bachmeier wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...so I'm genuinely worried about those declining user numbers My story might be relevant. I only recently learned about Pinboard. $22/year isn't terrible, but it's just a bookmarking service. Free trial? Nope - you need to pull out your credit card and fork over $22. You get seven days to request a refund. (Will I actually get it? No idea who's holding my money.) He's happy to boast about competitors disappearing,…

To me it’s definitely worth the price. Dunno why he doesn’t do trials though. Maybe it’s not worth the hassle? Those interested in the service can get a good feeling for it by looking at the product tour and recent bookmarks. And if you sign up and don’t like it then $22 is not that much money[1]. (No idea if he does refunds or not.) [1] In a Western country that is. I know $22 can be a lot of money depending on the…

He does refunds, I got one from him, after a very short delay. I got the feeling it was a pain in the ass for him to do it, but he did it anyway.

I later resubscribed at a higher price (I am fickle and decided I did actually want to use the service) - which I wouldn't have done had the customer service been poor when I asked for the refund first time.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

#40

Post by washicalendar »

aglionby wrote: post #33
washicalendar wrote: post #32

Can you all share your workflow/use cases with this and other bookmarking services? I’m geniounly curious because the way I treat bookmarks is that they are temporary links I wanna go back to, so they all end up being deleted sooner rather than later. When I want to visit a website I just type in the website’s name in my browser and either let autocomplete do its magic, or just let it take me to Google where I tap on…

I have two use cases. The first is to keep track of interesting articles I find and plausibly want to refer back to in the future. A 3rd party browser extension and mobile app make saving very easy, and then I tag each item with a high-level category. This is also pretty painless, and brings a lot of value (otherwise you just have an unsorted collection of links - not helpful). An example is my 'long reads' tag https…

> otherwise you just have an unsorted collection of links - not helpful

Yeah I think this is my problem. I’m on iOS so I use Safari’s reading list feature to keep track of articles I want to read. But it’s just a dump, no organization, and after I read an article I don’t know what to “do” with it anymore so I just delete it.

I think I need to figure out a system where I actually refer back to things because I seem to google for the same things over and over again. Pinboard seems like it could help

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