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ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

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Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

#31
My suggestion is to look outside of SaaS. Software is much easier to bootstrap in the past decade, increasing competition (from within a customer, and competitors). We're in the phase where every single permutation of what one can do with software is being exhausted.

Businesses using the same concepts and business models outside of this scope have potentially less competition, higher available market, and higher upside purchase exit.

Someone mentioned patio11, he essentially referenced the lower exit, customer fatigue as why he joined Stripe a few years ago

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

#32

I actually feel like I've been hearing a ton about failures, though they're all preceded by "you never hear about failures", and proceeded by, "and then I took what I learned and succeeded". What I actually never hear about is stories of trying to build a SaaS, failing, and then just giving up and going back to being a salaryman and retiring after a few decades. It's either that these stories are rare -- which signal…

I was planning to write something along the same lines, if I make it. I guess the reason of this happening is this - after you fail, you are too busy picking up the pieces, and trying to survive. I have written so much about small wins at my previous startup. And when it shut down, I was just trying to avoid falling. In the current one, we built and failed with 5 products. And then got more traction in 10 days than w…

> yes, this is a shameless plug. I am poor and cheap, and this is all I've got.

It will be difficult for you to know how much I empathize with this statement. Beautifully put.

Good luck to you Utkarsh.

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

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post #31

My suggestion is to look outside of SaaS. Software is much easier to bootstrap in the past decade, increasing competition (from within a customer, and competitors). We're in the phase where every single permutation of what one can do with software is being exhausted. Businesses using the same concepts and business models outside of this scope have potentially less competition, higher available market, and higher upsi…

> Businesses using the same concepts and business models outside of this scope have potentially less competition, higher available market, and higher upside purchase exit.

What type of businesses are you talking about here? Non-software or just non SaaS?

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

#34

This is likely going to sound too harsh (and the folks behind this seem lovely), but content creation efforts like this are a red flag to me in terms of evaluating whether or not a bootstrapped SAAS is going to "make" it. This isn't because they're inherently bad or that the people writing them have bad intentions, but that they're a time/attention trap. Meta articles like this, "How I made my first $10", "Breaking $…

One of the trends I’ve noticed is that people who have minor SaaS success can 5x their income by creating an ebook + course + masterclass about how they did it. Selling shovels in a gold rush....

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

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post #34

This is likely going to sound too harsh (and the folks behind this seem lovely), but content creation efforts like this are a red flag to me in terms of evaluating whether or not a bootstrapped SAAS is going to "make" it. This isn't because they're inherently bad or that the people writing them have bad intentions, but that they're a time/attention trap. Meta articles like this, "How I made my first $10", "Breaking $…

One of the trends I’ve noticed is that people who have minor SaaS success can 5x their income by creating an ebook + course + masterclass about how they did it. Selling shovels in a gold rush....

Similar to how most of the money in dropshipping is in selling learning materials and a dream to people who want to do dropshipping

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

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post #31

My suggestion is to look outside of SaaS. Software is much easier to bootstrap in the past decade, increasing competition (from within a customer, and competitors). We're in the phase where every single permutation of what one can do with software is being exhausted. Businesses using the same concepts and business models outside of this scope have potentially less competition, higher available market, and higher upsi…

> Businesses using the same concepts and business models outside of this scope have potentially less competition, higher available market, and higher upside purchase exit. What type of businesses are you talking about here? Non-software or just non SaaS?

My line of thinking is this: For the past decade(s), the area of growth has been software. It has sucked in professionals into the industry who would have been biologists, chemists, physicists, etc.

So my belief is that those areas are actually void of progress, because 'software' took the intelligence that would have been applied to other areas simply because software often paid 1x-5x more in salary.

But now software, in both profession and product - is becoming overly competitive, and will become top heavy with engineers 'stuck' to move forward (in areas of innovation). One can easily see it in what the industry produces to show our phase - the low hanging fruit is gone. Progress is much less innovation, rather than efficiency, measurement, and tooling. Efficiency is like pulling in an MBA to remove the cruft - one can mostly expect linear, smaller gains.

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

#37

Cool! I wish you luck. I have authored one project that took ten years to reach maturity (It is now exploding). That allowed me to iterate it, and ensure that it would be top-quality, by the time I tossed the reins over to a new team. It was free, though, and a labor of love[0]. I wrote another project as a "training course." It was sort of a dissertation. The quality is pretty much "off the charts." I had originally…

Interested in why writing it in PHP made selling it a non-starter. I'd expect that if it provided value it wouldn't really matter much what it was written in.

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

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post #34

This is likely going to sound too harsh (and the folks behind this seem lovely), but content creation efforts like this are a red flag to me in terms of evaluating whether or not a bootstrapped SAAS is going to "make" it. This isn't because they're inherently bad or that the people writing them have bad intentions, but that they're a time/attention trap. Meta articles like this, "How I made my first $10", "Breaking $…

One of the trends I’ve noticed is that people who have minor SaaS success can 5x their income by creating an ebook + course + masterclass about how they did it. Selling shovels in a gold rush....

Every success story is really about people selling the secret of success, which is to sell the secret of success. Twitter is full of this. Every success guru is selling a course about selling courses.

Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

#39

This is likely going to sound too harsh (and the folks behind this seem lovely), but content creation efforts like this are a red flag to me in terms of evaluating whether or not a bootstrapped SAAS is going to "make" it. This isn't because they're inherently bad or that the people writing them have bad intentions, but that they're a time/attention trap. Meta articles like this, "How I made my first $10", "Breaking $…

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Re: ExSaaSperated: A blog about the struggle to start a sustainable SaaS

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post #37

Cool! I wish you luck. I have authored one project that took ten years to reach maturity (It is now exploding). That allowed me to iterate it, and ensure that it would be top-quality, by the time I tossed the reins over to a new team. It was free, though, and a labor of love[0]. I wrote another project as a "training course." It was sort of a dissertation. The quality is pretty much "off the charts." I had originally…

Interested in why writing it in PHP made selling it a non-starter. I'd expect that if it provided value it wouldn't really matter much what it was written in.

Because PHP is not "buzzword-worthy." I was told, in no uncertain terms, that the fact it was written in PHP would mean that "no one would take it seriously," and that I would not get anyone interested in implementing it.

Considering the lack of interest in the project, I have to agree with that assessment.

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