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Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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Re: Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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It seems stallman had the foresight to predict things like this in 1997. I think the days where one needs to be licensed to use a debugger might not be far away.

I think macOS already blocks the debugger. You couldn't debug iTunes last I checked.

You can't debug anything via lldb/gdb without having an administrator password AFAIK. You can debug non native programs using for example pdb and other language specific debuggers, but I find it hard to make that more inconvenient anytime soon.

Re: Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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Repairing phones and installing custom ROMs are illegal in us/canada?

Under section 1201 of the Digital Millenium Copyright, it would be illegal to install a custom ROM or repair your phone without permission from the manufacturer. However, the Copyright office get to make official exceptions to the law and they made an exception for jailbreaking a phone. I'm not sure about repairing or installing custom ROMs. Those might fall into different categories.

Wouldn't the recent "Right to Repair" push in the US counter any efforts to prohibit repairs by independent repair businesses?

Re: Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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> I think the days where one needs to be licensed to use a debugger might not be far away. GNU/Linux and the BSDs have never before looked so essential to the survival of computing as we know it.

Yet, one of the main companies behind Linux is Microsoft and one of the main companies behind BSD is Apple. It's really hard not to have a negative outlook on both.

Apple is not behind BSD at all, using Darwin is not being behind BSD. Any of the the popular BSD distributions is not backed by Apple. Not to mention Microsoft needs linux, not the other way around. Microsoft is desperate to get linux developers on windows, using WSL. They had to rename Windows Azure to Microsoft Azure. Linux would not be affected at all if Microsoft stops contributing. Azure will be if it stops offering Linux VMs.

Re: Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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We need FOSS phones and a big enough company to implement the project and mass produce it to lower costs.

I'm optimistic with Pine64's PinePhone. It's bolstered numerous Free Software projects who aim to produce mobile phone OSes, like UBPorts and PostmarketOS. Hopefully the project proves that a workable and open smartphone can succeed.

Also, even if it isn't a big success, the devs of those OS projects will have experience building a Linux environment for a smartphone. There'll be more documented knowledge of how to implement SMS, calling, powersaving, telephoning and the rest. So even if it sinks, we still stand to gain.

Re: Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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I think it's more about boiling the frog. Temper the initial outrage with exceptions, let people get used to the idea that repairs are wrong but it's sometime ok, then remove exceptions later. It's the same long game the inkjet printer people have been unfortunately winning for a while now.

Not that I view this comment with a cynical eye, rather with an inquisitive perspective, I would love to read more examples which started with an exception cause and ended up with a blanket rule enforcement.

I think the general pattern here is "mission creep"[0] of which [1] is a classic example.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_creep

[1] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/11/anti-terror_l...

Re: Repairing your smartphone or installing a ROM will now be a crime in Mexico

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That Norwegian decision is a travesty as presented here, how can a repair infringe on a trademark and how on Earth did that not lead to an appeal. Using aftermarket parts is a well established practice in automotive, I see absolutely no reason why that would not extend to phones. Are they going to demand cars are only repaired with OEM parts as well?

The practice in automotive is there due to historical legacy - it would never be allowed in modern world. If anything, the carmakers have started to prevent you from doing your own repairs by demanding their own proprietary software to pair car controller modules. That software is licensed only to dealers and trying to use it outside those licensed conditions is a DMCA violation. With BMW pioneering car microtransact…

Well, fuck BMW then.
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