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Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by toastal »

IgorPartola wrote: post #12

I truly hope whoever keeps pushing AMP such as it is has to birth a hedgehog backwards. I mean, at least add some way to opt out of this shit. This is why I don’t use Google as my mobile search engine. I honestly still would if my browser allowed me to disable or bypass it, but nope. No extensions for me because Apple won’t allow for anything like that. /rant

The beta of Firefox on Android still hasn't allowed any add-ons to auto-redirect away from AMP-enabled sites. I was excited to see Privacy Badger enabled 2 releases ago, but even its tracking-token-stripping capabilities seems missing on mobile.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by waheoo »

jeffbee wrote: post #21
trishmapow2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not defending that change, but when do you ever need to copy just the domain instead of the full URL?

Always. Main reason I cut something is I want to paste the hostname into a terminal so it can be an argument of whois or dig or traceroute or whatever, in no case have I ever been glad of the scheme prefix.

It's a solution in search of a problem.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by bitsoda »

IgorPartola wrote: post #12

I truly hope whoever keeps pushing AMP such as it is has to birth a hedgehog backwards. I mean, at least add some way to opt out of this shit. This is why I don’t use Google as my mobile search engine. I honestly still would if my browser allowed me to disable or bypass it, but nope. No extensions for me because Apple won’t allow for anything like that. /rant

For real. For the most part I love all things Google, but AMP makes my blood boil. How does it save me any time when I have to tap that little ‘i’ to get to the original website through all that janky scrolling? Ugh, infuriating. I feel like a walrus on a tar floor maneuvering through AMP pages. What an awful piece of technology.

/rant

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by p1mrx »

jeffbee wrote: post #21
trishmapow2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not defending that change, but when do you ever need to copy just the domain instead of the full URL?

Always. Main reason I cut something is I want to paste the hostname into a terminal so it can be an argument of whois or dig or traceroute or whatever, in no case have I ever been glad of the scheme prefix.

I've lost count of how many times I've done:

    $ ping http://whatever.com [furious line editing ensues]
But thankfully it's fixed now, with the "Always show full URLs" option.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by esafwan »

superasn wrote: post #2

Yes this has been a big issue for a very long time now. Google wants to push a release where it will display the hostname of the amp site even if the content is being served from google.com[1]. Mozilla (and Apple) are strictly against it and thank god for Mozilla. If Google had a bigger market share this would already be something we would have been living with. I'm sure there are better sources for this, but here is…

Have a look at this: https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-amp-real-url/

Cloudflare allow using of same domain to use AMP. In this case, content is served from Cloudflare CDN.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by princevegeta89 »

This is the question I always had and confused myself over.

In addition to this, I previously stumbled upon a few situations where I visited an AMP site to read an article and I noted down the site name in my mind. A few days later I tried to visit that site and when I put the site name in the address bar in hopes of getting helped by autocomplete, guess what?! It was nowhere to be found.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by IncRnd »

dqpb wrote: post #30
superasn wrote: post #2

Yes this has been a big issue for a very long time now. Google wants to push a release where it will display the hostname of the amp site even if the content is being served from google.com[1]. Mozilla (and Apple) are strictly against it and thank god for Mozilla. If Google had a bigger market share this would already be something we would have been living with. I'm sure there are better sources for this, but here is…

Isn't this basically like a CDN or a PoP cache?

Not exactly. For a CDN to work, the DNS is repointed towards the CDN's servers. In this case, Google is trying to cover-up that Google and not NYTimes is serving the page.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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Post by lalos »

anonu wrote: post #14

Remember when Google's mantra was "Don't be evil" ???

"Don't be evil", using primary colors in the logo to bring that kindergarten familiarity, fun doodles, a dumb funny movie and quirky April Fools projects were a great marketing strategy to distract your average person in lowering their guard and feel safe to give all the data to an advertisement company. I wonder if they currently teach this case in marketing/PR classes.
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