Canada here. I currently cannot load DDG unless I'm connected to a US VPN (haven't tried other countries yet). Edit: the site is accessible for me again at 14h30, Eastern time.
Canada here too, DDG loads fine via Shaw.
Multiple service providers are blocking DuckDuckGo in India
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#32Canada here. I currently cannot load DDG unless I'm connected to a US VPN (haven't tried other countries yet). Edit: the site is accessible for me again at 14h30, Eastern time.
I am also in Canada and cannot load DDG via my university's vpn, but DDG works fine on my home internet connection.
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#33India, ruled by some big(!) heads who doesn't understand a dot in technology. They are governed by impulsive decisions of the policy makers and it's a name sake democracy. No real freedom of speech is allowed there AFAIK. Govt / Private / Policing is just too much and a lot of gag order as well. They just can't stand anything and consequences could cost a life too! Technology is being used by most of the population w…
Agree, bunch of fuckin morons at the top, the Prime Minister is following China's playbook and tries to pass all these so called bans based on his whims and fancies trying to whip up so called "patriotism", trying to divert attention from the rising covid cases.
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#34> Meanwhile, DuckDuckGo confirmed on Twitter that it’s looking into the issue and suggested Android users change their DNS provider to get around the issue. If changing DNS works, how is this blocked by the ISP? Seems to indicate there is some other technical problem. Treat the rest of the article, and specially with tweets, with skepticism.
Denmark does the same thing for illegal gambling sites, sites selling medication illegally and file sharing sites. Basically it's just the courts telling the ISPs that their DNS servers can't resolve certain domains names any more.
Everyone accepts that it's pretty easy to bypass but it's considered "good enough".
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> there is a ruling body known as TRAI / DOT which doesn't care to explain the rationale behind any of their decisions for blocking / banning etc. This is a big misconception in India. The URL blocking for the major part is ordered by courts and not the government - https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/ban-porn-sit...
> The URL blocking for the major part is ordered by courts and not the government I can't speak to TRAI and DOT involvement, but the statement that courts are not part of the "government" is an over-technical definition centered around Parliamentary technicalities that happen to use the word, and of limited utility here. The courts are very much part of the apparatus which governs the people of a nation.
Why don't English speakers use the term "state" to talk about the "human community which lays claim to the monopoly on the legitimated use of physical force"? Is it because they want to avoid confusion with states as in "The United States"?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haven’t been back in India for a while, but the DNS blocking happens all the time. One big provider (AirTel) even injected ads in non-https pages quite frequently. Anecdotally, I had a cable service in Delhi where the provider started throttling me if I didn’t make any request to their dns server in some arbitrary time interval. So changing your dns might not be the fix (i fixed it by sending random queries to their…
> One big provider (AirTel) even injected ads in non-https pages quite frequently. ...and in "HTTPS" pages "secured" by cloudflare. https://medium.com/@karthikb351/airtel-is-sniffing-and-censo...
It would have been nice to have a more proactive response in the original discussion on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12092188
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The URL blocking for the major part is ordered by courts and not the government I can't speak to TRAI and DOT involvement, but the statement that courts are not part of the "government" is an over-technical definition centered around Parliamentary technicalities that happen to use the word, and of limited utility here. The courts are very much part of the apparatus which governs the people of a nation.
Why don't English speakers use the term "state" to talk about the "human community which lays claim to the monopoly on the legitimated use of physical force"? Is it because they want to avoid confusion with states as in "The United States"?
Not all governments are states. Cities may also have governments, for instance, as might informal associations. In this case where it is less important that the actor is a state; it is more important that they are exercising authority and power, setting and enforcing policy.
Therefore, in this case, the term "government" is a better fit than "state".
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#38Just checked, works for me on 2 different ISPs. This looks like fake news.
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#39I just saw a billboard for it on a 45mph stretch through a medium sized city.
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#40Is there any precedent for this in India (blocking a search engine or other 'utility' website, as opposed to specific content)?
India is the worst in the world (since 2014 right wing govt came to power) for internet shut downs. the current government is a ultra right wing majority and they shut down the internet in areas which protest.
then their minions try to drown the voices of dissent online and offline by abusing dissenters or plain beating them up.
then the ultra right wing government arrests those who are beaten up under sedition, act of war against the state, keeps them in jail for 90+ days without filing an FIR and when they are released after 90days according the the law, they're arrested again on trumped up charges!