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Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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My guess is that accounts for about 30% of the costs.

The existing Rig is $4750 USD and is rear-wheel-drive only. Are you saying it would cost 30% more to make it 4WD?

Given that the electric monitor is in-line, and there's no gearing or shaft, I mean is that such a stretch? The easiest way to make it 4WD would be a second electric motor, which could easily be 30%.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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It's because it's not a wheelchair, so it doesn't need to meet the regulatory standards, nor does the insurance middleman pricing kick in.

And one might argue, it isn't a usable product without assistance. Per the video, she couldn't even lower the handle without him to exit, and it certainly isn't getting in/out of even wheelchair converted vehicles by itself. Not to mention electrical power (Vs. gas in the competition) definitely could result in the user being stranded, even if it has a power-usage monitor (given how environmental factors can impact n…

I mean, speaking for myself mainly here, but I wouldn’t really feel comfortable in _any_ off-road situation without a buddy with me. And most of my friends who handcycle regularly generally always have someone with them.

But then again I don’t want to exclude the population who are capable of doing this independently.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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Far more stability, right? I assumed that's why 3-wheel ATVs are banned pretty much everywhere.

Having the front be single wheeled leads to the a lot of instability because turns change your center of gravity. I just bought a recumbent bike and I had to search extensively to find a nice two-wheeler because the 2 front wheel 3-wheelers are quite popular, just like the motorcycle equivalent. Most bikes and motorcycles with three wheels have the same steering linkage you'd find in a car.

> Having the front be single wheeled leads to the a lot of instability because turns change your center of gravity.

Cue Mr Bean and a Reliant Robin: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mr+bean+reliant+robin&iax=videos&i...

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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I think the biggest impact of this is the price. There are other similar products out there (Bowhead and Outrider come to mind), but those are really expensive. In a world where mobility product prices are through the roof (my power wheelchair costs north of $50k), selling something like this for under $5k is quite incredible.

The wide-spread use of ebikes makes components for this kind of thing much more affordable.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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I highly recommend subscribing JerryRigEverything channel. The host's (zack) primary content is dismantling smartphones at same time reviewing it's features fairly. I had unsubscribed to every other smartphone review channel as I'm not going to change my smartphone every other day and at the same time I want to keep myself apprised of the developments in smartphone hardware; JRE serves me perfectly for that.

He got very political some years ago (trump/clinton stuff) and I unsubscribed.

what? I occasionally watch his videos. The only thing political i heard him say was about rights to repair, apple fighting repeatability, or small rants how apple designs for anti repairs.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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I think the biggest impact of this is the price. There are other similar products out there (Bowhead and Outrider come to mind), but those are really expensive. In a world where mobility product prices are through the roof (my power wheelchair costs north of $50k), selling something like this for under $5k is quite incredible.

It's because it's not a wheelchair, so it doesn't need to meet the regulatory standards, nor does the insurance middleman pricing kick in.

The fact that it's made from off-the-shelf parts designed for more mainstream use-cases (e-bikes) probably also helps a lot. Economies of scale and all that.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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4750USD doesn't sound extremely affordable for battery only up to 10 miles at best, so less than 5 miles one direction under ideal conditions. I dunno, I would expect at least better range from 4 wheels, simple body, suspension and electric enegine worth 4.8K. this seem like something worth max. half of the price they sell it for I fail to see benefit compared to ATV - I just checked some shops and you can buy brand…

ATV weighs 400 lbs and doesn't use off-the-shelf bicycle components.

This is basically a recumbent four-wheel electric light-duty fatbike. It's a niche and I think it's cool.

One could just as easily compare an electric bike to a honda ruckus.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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An ATV doesn’t provide the trunk support that most wheelchair users need.

Will modifying an ATV to give trunk support not be cheaper ? it won’t be as portable though

I suppose so. I think that an ATV’s saddle style seating is less stable in general though. I’ve never ridden an ATV but it seems to me like a lot of the time rider stability is derived from the feet being planted and the quads and glutes being able to hold onto the saddle, which for paralyzed users is unlikely. In this vehicle it has an actual seat so the butt stays planted and provides the side-to-side stability.

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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I think the biggest impact of this is the price. There are other similar products out there (Bowhead and Outrider come to mind), but those are really expensive. In a world where mobility product prices are through the roof (my power wheelchair costs north of $50k), selling something like this for under $5k is quite incredible.

>my power wheelchair costs north of $50k

What kind is it? Here in the UK the typical price I'm finding is ~£1000, with high end models ~£3000

https://www.uk-wheelchairs.co.uk/electric-wheelchairs-power-...

https://www.careco.co.uk/cat-wc09/powerchairs.htm

Re: Not a Wheelchair [video]

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I highly recommend subscribing JerryRigEverything channel. The host's (zack) primary content is dismantling smartphones at same time reviewing it's features fairly. I had unsubscribed to every other smartphone review channel as I'm not going to change my smartphone every other day and at the same time I want to keep myself apprised of the developments in smartphone hardware; JRE serves me perfectly for that.

He got very political some years ago (trump/clinton stuff) and I unsubscribed.

Does Facebook have a patent on their snooze feature? It would be a nice addition to YouTube and Twitter.
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