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Re: Project Covalence

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Post by _Microft » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 12:19 PM UTC

gumby wrote: post #22

type0 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why would health insurance be involved when running medical trials and why would it cost anything? To cover for the possible adverse effects

Actually AEs, and especially SAEs, are more often than not handled by the clinical investigators or trial sponsor, for a variety of reasons. Insurance policies often don't cover you while you're enrolled in a trial ("you wouldn't have broken your leg if you hadn't been in that cholesterol drug trial so we don't cover that"). The agency really cares a lot, especially about SAEs, and if someone is hit by a trolley whil…

SAE = serious adverse event

Re: Project Covalence

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Post by nextaccountic » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 2:03 PM UTC

hairytrog wrote: post #11

It is now clear that Covid-19 is not as dangerous as was thought and hyped by media and governments worldwide, and that the prescribed shutdown cure has been and will be much worse than the disease itself. Please see ( https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ ) for a pretty clear summary or follow Aaron Ginn. Covid-19 vaccine development is nearly useless at this point. That said, we need countermeasures and res…

A link from Swiss Policy Research? This doesn't seem too persuasive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Propaganda_Research

> Swiss Policy Research (SPR) or (before May 2020) Swiss Propaganda Research is a website launched in 2016, which describes itself as a "an independent nonprofit research group investigating geopolitical propaganda in Swiss and international media". The editors of the site are unknown, but they claim that "SPR is composed of independent academics and receives no external funding".[1] The site has been widely criticised for spreading conspiracy theories and especially so during the times of the COVID-19 pandemic when it has become a source of misinformation and disinformation internationally.[2] The site has been categorized by some as a tool of propaganda.[3] It has even been noted that, contrary to what the title suggests, the contents of the site are likely created outside of Switzerland.

Re: Project Covalence

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Post by jxramos » Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 6:42 AM UTC

redis_mlc wrote: post #28

jxramos wrote: post #5

I've actually been wondering as covid19 winds down and people's lived experiences no longer perceive it as the doom and gloom threat it once held sway with, if given that perception whether the market rewards will continue to stand and attract massive investments in pursuit of a vaccine where the rewards may not outweigh the risks. I would think that would be a pretty strong signal that covid is not as large a risk i…

As soon as SARS-1 died down in 2003, all human vaccine efforts and trials stopped. Even worse, funding for general corona virus research also was not available. That's why even though SARS-1 was in 2003, we're nowhere with SARS-2. (China hid SARS-1 from about Nov. 2002 to Jan. 2003, similar to SARS-2.)

This would be an interesting history to follow and summarize somewhere well documented for sure.