Why You Should Never Buy a Home Again
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Re: Why You Should Never Buy a Home Again
#32I could easily refute all the points in that article if I had the time. I'll suffice to give this example: "A" buys a $100,000 house, "B" rents a $100,000 house. Both pay about $1,500 per month. At the end of 15 years, "A" owns an asset worth $100,000, "B" owns nothing. You decide.
I agree in theory, but in practice people don't go from renting houses to buying identical houses---they always trade up: from a 2 bedroom apartment to a 3 bedroom condominium, from a 3 bedroom house to a 5 bedroom McMansion, etc. Because of this the costs of ownership once mortgage, taxes, utilities and maintenance are tallied up are often more than what a person was previously spending on rent. Secondly, his major…
High & mid-rise buildings Downtown are being purchased (Dan Gilbert is one such buyer) for 6 figure sums.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree in theory, but in practice people don't go from renting houses to buying identical houses---they always trade up: from a 2 bedroom apartment to a 3 bedroom condominium, from a 3 bedroom house to a 5 bedroom McMansion, etc. Because of this the costs of ownership once mortgage, taxes, utilities and maintenance are tallied up are often more than what a person was previously spending on rent. Secondly, his major…
The analogy is similar re: stock. Is your $25 citigroup stock really worth selling @ $3? Most likely those people sold at .60 cents. Most people who are losing money in real estate were also selling stocks at the bottom (2 years ago) and were buying tech stocks with two hands in 1999.
Many people are losing money simply by having the value of their houses fall. They don't want to sell, but their so called "investment" is worth half the price today on the open market than it was when they bought it. Realistically, they may never recover the value they spent in their lifetimes.
Re: Why You Should Never Buy a Home Again
#34I could easily refute all the points in that article if I had the time. I'll suffice to give this example: "A" buys a $100,000 house, "B" rents a $100,000 house. Both pay about $1,500 per month. At the end of 15 years, "A" owns an asset worth $100,000, "B" owns nothing. You decide.
The only benefit of owning in such a market is that purchasing means you draw a line in the sand, "A" is now more in control if their monthly rent. But they're not in complete control, interest rates rise, the building needs to get repaired, there's those not insignificant legal and other costs associated with purchasing in the first place. That adds up to quite an expense. Meanwhile "B" doesn't have those concerns, and a great deal of flexibility and liquidity.
I'll personally stay "B", and my investment properties will be limited to those rare gems that are cash-flow positive within a year or two.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The analogy is similar re: stock. Is your $25 citigroup stock really worth selling @ $3? Most likely those people sold at .60 cents. Most people who are losing money in real estate were also selling stocks at the bottom (2 years ago) and were buying tech stocks with two hands in 1999.
> Most people who are losing money in real estate ... Many people are losing money simply by having the value of their houses fall. They don't want to sell, but their so called "investment" is worth half the price today on the open market than it was when they bought it. Realistically, they may never recover the value they spent in their lifetimes.
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#36I'll make some comments on his financial arguments:
A) If you pay off your home fast, you won't have anymore mortgage payments. And you actually own something that you might be able to sell later, getting some money back. If you rent, you won't see that money ever again. So technically your cash is good as gone if you rent. If you own, you can get something back at least.
This depends on the house you buy and the market. For example, I rented a lot until I found a good deal on a house. Now I pay less on my mortgage than on my apartment I rented.
The rent may increase every year too. At every place I stayed, they always raised the rent every year. At least with the home, you don't have to worry about that since you have the same mortgage payment every month.
B) Usually the seller pays the closing costs, especially at the current market. If not, negotiate so the seller pays. You don't usually have to worry about this if you're buying a home.
C) He's right on this one. The comfort of calling the maintenance person at my apt was one of the benefits over owning.
D) This is simliar to A). It depends on the market and the home you get. For me, the taxes + mortgage turned out to be simliar to what I paid in rent. Plus I now get a huge refund because of my deductions. So I paid around the same amount as my rent, and I got a bigger refund on my taxes.
E) I agree with the author. This is probably one of the disadvantages of owning a house.
F) I don't consider my home an investment. It's a place I bought to live in. I don't expect to make a profit from it. I have my stocks and mutual funds that I consider to be investments.
Now my comments on his personal reasons on not owning a home:
A) I agree with the author. This is same as E) above. I don't know why he put it twice.
B) I don't see how this is a reason not to own a home. The benefits of owning a home is that you can do whatever you want with it without worrying about the landlord looking over your shoulder.
C) I don't understand this argument as a reason for not buying a home.
D-F). Not everyone is same. Some people's hobbies are gardening and maintaining the home. They actually enjoy doing it. Some people like the sense of stability. But if you're like the author and like to change things up a lot and be mobile, a house is probably not good for you.
G) I got stressed when I rented because the landlord needed to raise the rent every year. Then I had to go through the stress of negotiating the rent increase. If I wasn't successful, I had the stress of budgeting for the higher rent or had the stress of packing all my junk up, finding a new place, and moving. So renting isn't always stress free.
H) This is true. But if you plan wisely, you should still have a lot of cash available for emergencies, even after buying your home.
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#37To compare another investment, if you were to save $200/mo away into an investment account bearing 9.0% (like an S&P index fund), this would amount to $368,894 after 30 years. The whole time these funds are liquid and accessible to you, not subject to foreclosure, nor is this a required payment. $400/mo is $737,789.
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#38I'll buy a home with cash. Never with debt. Mortgages are pointless. I'd rather pay my rent to a landlord than a bank.
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#39I think his post is a bit extreme. It depends on a lot of factors on whether to buy a house or not. I think most of his reasons aren't really valid for not owning a home. I'll make some comments on his financial arguments: A) If you pay off your home fast, you won't have anymore mortgage payments. And you actually own something that you might be able to sell later, getting some money back. If you rent, you won't see…
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#40Yeah, that's it. Lease everything, don't own any assets. Let me know how that works out for you.