I don’t get it. Are we now advocating that police is overall more of a force of evil than good? Legitimate question.
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#32I don’t get it. Are we now advocating that police is overall more of a force of evil than good? Legitimate question.
That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.
This principle incriminates the protesters just as much.
There is widespread rationalization and support for the "few bad apples" perpetrating violence/looting/burning/rioting. There is very little condemnation. Lots of quoting MLK Jr. "rioting is the voice of the unheard" and yet MLK Jr. certainly did not practice or advocate violence.
If the protesters can't regulate their own bad apples then how can they judge police for not being able to?
Currently, this is two groups of unethical idiots fighting with each other. With each group's extremists serving to justify the other's extremists.
The outcome is easily predicted. Either the protesters take the ethical high ground or they lose.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is caused by using DNS over https
Same here. Why is it caused by DNS over https?
Because the archive.is operator returns bad results when queried by Cloudflare. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828702
Re: Slack Removed a Blog Post Showing How Police Use Its Tech
#34Former Slack employee here... This blog post/case study was published a few years ago by Slack's marketing team and led to a firestorm of controversy within the company. Many employees of all backgrounds spoke up about how upset they were that Slack would use a police department as marketing. Eventually the decision was made to keep it up which certainly frustrated a lot of people. I guess now the leaders have decide…
A few years ago I would've thought thought that was an overreaction (assuming police were just using it as customers, and not something like surveillance). This week, I no longer feel that way.
The post is from 2017, which is long after Snowden era.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.
Yep. The police seem to be caught in us-vs-them tribalism where police are the us, and them is the citizenry that they are supposed to serve.
Yeah, and then they also manage to convince themselves (and their supporters) that they're the victims, because they do dangerous work/their colleagues get shot, and the "they" they are facing are all dangerous Jason Bourne-esque assassins...
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.
This principle incriminates the protesters just as much. There is widespread rationalization and support for the "few bad apples" perpetrating violence/looting/burning/rioting. There is very little condemnation. Lots of quoting MLK Jr. "rioting is the voice of the unheard" and yet MLK Jr. certainly did not practice or advocate violence. If the protesters can't regulate their own bad apples then how can they judge pol…
Because one of those groups has a legal monopoly on violence, de facto power, budgets, training, and an incredibly loud political voice.
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#37I don’t get it. Are we now advocating that police is overall more of a force of evil than good? Legitimate question.
> police is overall more of a force of evil than good?
I’ve watched journalists arrested and senior citizens bowled over and horrific horrific force used against children on TV and then seen how police chiefs and their lieutenants excuse and deny it in bare defiance of the documented truth and have concluded that, at the very least, evil forces in the police are unconstrained.
Until we see evidence of that constraint, it seems irresponsible to add force multipliers to the equation.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few years ago I would've thought thought that was an overreaction (assuming police were just using it as customers, and not something like surveillance). This week, I no longer feel that way.
Honest foreigner question: are all US police that "stinky" that any association with them is now bad, or is it an overreaction? Surely there are good police departments, ones that work with the community and not against them? But maybe I'm not seeing it from the perspective of those black employees...
I've seen videos of unjustified force by PDs in not just my hometown but my college town as well. Surely there are good police departments, but there are far too many police departments ending up in this GitHub repo that tracks police brutality https://github.com/2020PB/police-brutality
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is what's becoming apparent right now, yes. I was more of an "a few bad apples" person until this week. But they're making it extremely clear that as a faction they have no regard for anything or anyone but their own power and bravado.
This principle incriminates the protesters just as much. There is widespread rationalization and support for the "few bad apples" perpetrating violence/looting/burning/rioting. There is very little condemnation. Lots of quoting MLK Jr. "rioting is the voice of the unheard" and yet MLK Jr. certainly did not practice or advocate violence. If the protesters can't regulate their own bad apples then how can they judge pol…
With great power comes great responsibility. The protesters, even the bad ones, don't have tanks and near-universal legal immunity.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few years ago I would've thought thought that was an overreaction (assuming police were just using it as customers, and not something like surveillance). This week, I no longer feel that way.
Honest foreigner question: are all US police that "stinky" that any association with them is now bad, or is it an overreaction? Surely there are good police departments, ones that work with the community and not against them? But maybe I'm not seeing it from the perspective of those black employees...
The problem is a lack of accountability for the bad police.
If good police are standing by while the bad police are abusing their power, they aren’t really good police. If the bad police are walking away without repercussions or, in some cases, even retaining their taxpayer-paid pensions, we can’t trust the police force as a whole.
The job of police is to maintain order, not to protect their own.