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Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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I'm pretty sure that Facebook won't do anything until they finish integrating the Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp backends so that any future antitrust action won't be able to split up the company. They just need to postpone.

Do unified backends mean that the government can't enforce antitrust action? That would be quite the loophole.

No lmao, the US has enforced monopoly breakups of companies with much larger physical barriers, and honestly much more real-world dependency/impact

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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Devil’s advocate thought experiment: suppose I was a CEO of a large social media company and my personal view is pro-life. Should I remove pro-choice posts (or censor them with violence labels), or should I allow discussion on the topic even though I personally disagree with it? I don’t think people can have their cake and eat it too. Either the CEOs of these companies start imposing their personal views on their use…

Yelling fire in a crowded theatre isn't protected, free speech.

Similarly incitement of violence isn't a political opinion to be agreed or disagreed with.

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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Zuckerberg realizes that large corporations should not be arbiters of truth, because it cannot be fair, and it cannot work long-term, in my opinion.

Even if one decides certain types of incorrect content should be removed, he realizes there's no chance for this to be applied evenly to all individuals and organizations, especially when the only example given by these activists is a single person.

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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post #6

I'm pretty sure that Facebook won't do anything until they finish integrating the Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp backends so that any future antitrust action won't be able to split up the company. They just need to postpone.

Do unified backends mean that the government can't enforce antitrust action? That would be quite the loophole.

"See, it's really just one ! and with our unified TOS, it's just one service with 3 different ways to consume it!"

...Facebook, probably.

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post #24

Free speech is overrated. Speech can be dangerous and therefore we need to regulate it on every level. Not just Facebook either; we need to ban speech and public commentary whenever it’s problematic. Books need to be screened too. Hopefully we’ll be able to monitor and correct people’s thoughts as well when the technology becomes available. When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong.

Uh no. The problem today isn't free speech, it's that the limits on how you transmit and disseminate it, favors the tiny, loud, misleading, ignorant few who can generate the most 'engagement'. Like you for instance. You're hear calling free speech dangerous, and that is such an absurd and ridiculous point of view I feel the need to respond. Free speech has worked great for 100s of years. You don't give up wheels beca…

It was all sarcasm.

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I'm sure I'm in the minority on this website, but I think anything the President posts on social media should be kept in place. Yes, I think he posts bad things sometimes, promotes violence, posts racist comments. But...he's the President. He's not like all the other users of Facebook/Twitter, and different rules should apply to him. Essentially the people who want his posts removed are forcing their own opinion of r…

I think it has to be kept around as record and for accountability. Twitter however shouldn't feed it into timelines.

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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Mark Zuckerberg knows that Trump will probably be re-elected in spite of everything; it would be quite unwise for the CEO of any large public corporation to make an enemy of the most vindictive American president in recent history. His shareholders won’t appreciate the results of that.

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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post #6

I'm pretty sure that Facebook won't do anything until they finish integrating the Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp backends so that any future antitrust action won't be able to split up the company. They just need to postpone.

Do unified backends mean that the government can't enforce antitrust action? That would be quite the loophole.

Yeah, not sure why that would be pertinent.

"You can't split us up! Our backends are unified!" "Un-unify your backend." "...oh."

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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I'm sure I'm in the minority on this website, but I think anything the President posts on social media should be kept in place. Yes, I think he posts bad things sometimes, promotes violence, posts racist comments. But...he's the President. He's not like all the other users of Facebook/Twitter, and different rules should apply to him. Essentially the people who want his posts removed are forcing their own opinion of r…

Flagging is distinct from removing posts. Removing seems obviously wrong for the reasons you give. Flagging is probably ok, maybe even the right thing to do.

Re: Civil rights leaders blast Facebook after meeting with Zuckerberg

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post #19

I'm sure I'm in the minority on this website, but I think anything the President posts on social media should be kept in place. Yes, I think he posts bad things sometimes, promotes violence, posts racist comments. But...he's the President. He's not like all the other users of Facebook/Twitter, and different rules should apply to him. Essentially the people who want his posts removed are forcing their own opinion of r…

I think the idea that the office of the President confers with it the ability to flout norms, rules & laws is a dangerous one. Monarchs are above the law: a president should be required to follow every law & every rule to the same degree as any other citizen.

I don't know why you're being downvoted. You're right.

He should have access to special information, and be involved in the world in ways regular citizens can't (meeting with terrorist organizations to work on peace, for example).

But the laws of the land should apply to everyone, equally. I have no idea why that would be a controversial opinion.

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