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Let’s say hacker news could be sued for me posting a comment threatening to kill you and refusing to remove it. Because in many states (maybe all?) they can be. Remember, websites are only given immunity if they fail to remove “sueable” content. Will they (hacker news): a. Prescreen all comments, like a publisher prescreens manuscripts, or b. Just do away with user-submitted content, or c. Let everyone say whatever t…
They would pick c. All the legislators have to do is set a minimum size and certain exceptions on what can be removed, eg above 100 million users and remove off-topic and spam. HN and 99% of websites would be unaffected, but Twitter, Facebook et al would have to be more hands off in moderation. If you own a giant piece of land and the government wants to build a highway over a part of it, it's still possible for them…
Donald Trump is starting a messy fight with the entire internet
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Re: Donald Trump is starting a messy fight with the entire internet
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Is it not sufficient to discuss the potential for abuse in such a scenario? Does one necessarily need evidence of prior abuse to voice their concern about a potentially broken system? For instance, in this case the ballots are being automatically mailed to everyone who is registered to vote. Today my roommate is registered to vote. Tomorrow he hypothetically dies of COVID-19. Day after tomorrow, his ballot arrives in…
no one denies that voter fraud is possible. the more important question is whether voter fraud is a serious threat to the voting process, and there's no evidence of this. collecting ballots from the mailboxes of dead people is not exactly a scalable enough way to rig an election for the democrats to warrant serious concern — especially considering how the hardest-struck communities vote democratic anyway. and besides…
We're starting to hear a few accounts of "ballot harvesting", and I suspect we'll go through several generations of fixes before this becomes as reliable as in-person voting.
(Personally, I don't really care. I give my ballot to my wife to vote anyway.)
Re: Donald Trump is starting a messy fight with the entire internet
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Is it not sufficient to discuss the potential for abuse in such a scenario? Does one necessarily need evidence of prior abuse to voice their concern about a potentially broken system? For instance, in this case the ballots are being automatically mailed to everyone who is registered to vote. Today my roommate is registered to vote. Tomorrow he hypothetically dies of COVID-19. Day after tomorrow, his ballot arrives in…
no one denies that voter fraud is possible. the more important question is whether voter fraud is a serious threat to the voting process, and there's no evidence of this. collecting ballots from the mailboxes of dead people is not exactly a scalable enough way to rig an election for the democrats to warrant serious concern — especially considering how the hardest-struck communities vote democratic anyway. and besides…
How would you know a priori if it is a serious threat without the final tally?
Gore v Bush 2000 had a very close total in Florida. Would it not be a serious threat in a similar situation?
Re: Donald Trump is starting a messy fight with the entire internet
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no one denies that voter fraud is possible. the more important question is whether voter fraud is a serious threat to the voting process, and there's no evidence of this. collecting ballots from the mailboxes of dead people is not exactly a scalable enough way to rig an election for the democrats to warrant serious concern — especially considering how the hardest-struck communities vote democratic anyway. and besides…
That's a point. But it might be that large-scale fraud hasn't really happened yet because the opportunity hasn't really happened yet. We're starting to hear a few accounts of "ballot harvesting", and I suspect we'll go through several generations of fixes before this becomes as reliable as in-person voting. (Personally, I don't really care. I give my ballot to my wife to vote anyway.)