And now this story has been flagged on hacker news... It's already off the front page despite 103 upvotes in 1 hour
YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
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Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#32The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!
There's a startup idea... Build a platform for free expression of ideas that caters to a Chinese market and then wait for the Chinese government to pay you to give them censorship privileges.
Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#33The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!
> The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform
Well, they're wrong.
I think most people who don't object to their right to do that think they have right to do it (not that it is the right thing to do, or morally justified).
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#34Don't they realize that people will just generate euphemisms? Idiotic.
I believe that associating the euphemisms with their original context is the type of problem machine learning is well equipped to solve- anyone have the expertise to share their conjecture?
Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#35And now this story has been flagged on hacker news... It's already off the front page despite 103 upvotes in 1 hour
I've noticed that if you even try to talk about the manipulation of HN, things like abusing flags to get posts buried, the comments get downvoted.
Certain posts disappear very quickly, and there's almost always a clear political reason for why some group wouldn't want people seeing that post.
Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#36The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!
But the same persons would be scandalized if youtube would censor US politicians propaganda. Because I tell you, looking at Fox News as a European, I can't understand how it qualifies as "news", yet many americans are very attached to it. I'm sure there are plenty of chinese people that feels like Fox News viewers about their own news sources. And they think they are right just as much. And each camp will say "you ca…
Google blocks what governments don't want spread since it wants to be on good relations with them. Same way it's blocking covid-19 related things that are deemed fake news. And in Germany it'll block Nazis.
Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#37And now this story has been flagged on hacker news... It's already off the front page despite 103 upvotes in 1 hour
I've noticed that if you even try to talk about the manipulation of HN, things like abusing flags to get posts buried, the comments get downvoted. Certain posts disappear very quickly, and there's almost always a clear political reason for why some group wouldn't want people seeing that post.
Its contrary to policy, to talk about voting in posts not about voting. I shouldn't even be posting this.
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#38The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!
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Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#39Previous discussions of YT censoring some chinese terms in the last 14 days:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23223219
Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division
#40Anyone have actual sources noting that this "wumao" thing actually exists and isn't just a slander phrasing against CCPs supposed censorship efforts?