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Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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/r/conspiracy kids discovers public city weather and traffic cameras that have been around Since the 00s

> weather and traffic cameras

Several are clearly disguised; the view is framed by "high voltage" etc. decals in reverse, similar to:

https://www.qpcs.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2015-06-17_2...

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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/r/conspiracy kids discovers public city weather and traffic cameras that have been around Since the 00s

Play around with one and you'll see quickly that these are designed for remote surveillance. Traffic / weather cameras don't have telephoto lenses, motorized 3 axis control or high-quality sensors.

You just made up every aspect of that statement. Caltrans traffic cameras are all variable telephoto cameras on pan/tilt/zoom rigs. Many weather cameras even allow random web visitors to control the PTZ for a minute or two.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think people have internalized the fact that the US gov has surveillance drones in holding patterns over most US metropolitan areas. Every time I've seen someone poke around one of those persistence ADSB/radar maps, they have gone through the stages of discovery: "What are those circles?" "Surveillance drones." "Haha, no, really, what are they? Planes circling the airport?" "No, that (points to thin circle) i…

Have an example of this? Would be interesting to see it.

Not a map but it being done openly in Baltimore.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-c...

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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post #20

Where is the conspiracy? I thought the US government had been surveiling its cities via aerial technology. Is the conspiracy that these are unsecured?

Also worth noting that just about every redlight intersection has cameras mounted on top pointing at traffic in each direction.

It's pretty much impossible to navigate through a city anonymously in a vehicle.

Now with facial recognition software getting so advanced I'd water it's impossible to walk through a city anonymously as well.

They don't necessarily need aerial imagery when every intersection has HD cameras pointing at you.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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post #20

Where is the conspiracy? I thought the US government had been surveiling its cities via aerial technology. Is the conspiracy that these are unsecured?

Your comment isn't totally true in the narrow sense that it's not being done domestically by the USG specifically (at least at the time I was reading about it).

The best book on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/05449...

The primary domestic use was by the Baltimore police department and it was supplied by an individual billionaire interested in funding the project.

Interesting fact in that book was that the initial spark for the project was someone in government watching Enemy of the State in the 90s and thinking "we should be building this". Somewhat comically the guy who worked on the camera effects in the movie also has a defense company and was asked to help build the real thing.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Anybody else afraid to click some of the links in that post until you hear about legality of accessing (and controlling!) a DEA camera that's likely part of an active investigation?

As a practical matter I'm not worried about clicking a link that's been clicked tens of thousands of times today.

There's enough ambiguous laws they could likely come after anyone who accesses it if they wanted but given the facts of the situation I doubt they'd be able to make anything stick and it would be a giant PR snafu.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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post #31

/r/conspiracy kids discovers public city weather and traffic cameras that have been around Since the 00s

> weather and traffic cameras Several are clearly disguised; the view is framed by "high voltage" etc. decals in reverse, similar to: https://www.qpcs.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2015-06-17_2...

So what? Even weather cameras need deterrence from vandals.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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post #35

Anybody else afraid to click some of the links in that post until you hear about legality of accessing (and controlling!) a DEA camera that's likely part of an active investigation?

As a practical matter I'm not worried about clicking a link that's been clicked tens of thousands of times today. There's enough ambiguous laws they could likely come after anyone who accesses it if they wanted but given the facts of the situation I doubt they'd be able to make anything stick and it would be a giant PR snafu.

I believe there is precedent that you’re allowed to enter any computer system until you’re specifically warned. It’s a bit like traveling through open land, you can’t get in trouble for trespassing until you’ve been warned that you’re entering private property.

IANAL.

Re: Redditor finds unsecured surveillance cameras seemingly placed by US government

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think people have internalized the fact that the US gov has surveillance drones in holding patterns over most US metropolitan areas. Every time I've seen someone poke around one of those persistence ADSB/radar maps, they have gone through the stages of discovery: "What are those circles?" "Surveillance drones." "Haha, no, really, what are they? Planes circling the airport?" "No, that (points to thin circle) i…

Have an example of this? Would be interesting to see it.

This book is the best source on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/05449...
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