A friend considered it after graduation. 3500 a month for a place in rent. Eventually even with tech salaries that doesn’t make sense. He went to Seattle.
The 10% -> 0% income tax SF -> Seattle is also a pretty big deal.
San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate
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#32I know this is hacker news nitpicking, but moveBuddha is incredibly disrespectful name for a company to actual buddhists.
Why? Is the name offensive in any way?
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#33Stay the hell out of Texas.
came here to say this
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#34> But there are many reasons why the region could finally be experiencing a shrinking population: And yet the author is missing the elephant in the room: the incredibly deteriorating living conditions in a city crammed with drug addicts, human feces and casual violent aggressions at all hours of the day. A city that enables the "homeless lifestyle" without any accountability. Homelessness is - for the most part in Sa…
High housing costs are probably a causal factor in all of the problems you mention. When housing costs are as exorbitant as they are, everyone is much closer to homelessness than they were before. If someone is laid off in the bay, they have significantly less time to find a new job before they cannot afford housing compared to more affordable areas. Once you are actually homeless, mental problems and drug issues can…
It's funny because people like the parent comment here usually propose even more fines and restrictions on these people.
None of them want to admit that housing shouldn't be tied to employment.
You want to solve homelessness? Make homes a guaranteed right. And actual homes. Not some shitty shelters.
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#35A friend considered it after graduation. 3500 a month for a place in rent. Eventually even with tech salaries that doesn’t make sense. He went to Seattle.
Should note that's basically the price for a full 1b to yourself in a nice and convenient area in the city. Most people who move here after graduation are probably paying closer to half that due to living with roommates/not in the super convenient and expensive areas.
Fair, but he is paying $1500 for that same thing in Seattle.
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#36> But there are many reasons why the region could finally be experiencing a shrinking population: And yet the author is missing the elephant in the room: the incredibly deteriorating living conditions in a city crammed with drug addicts, human feces and casual violent aggressions at all hours of the day. A city that enables the "homeless lifestyle" without any accountability. Homelessness is - for the most part in Sa…
Lots of folks back East, they say, is leavin' home every day,
Beatin' the hot old dusty way to the California line.
'Cross the desert sands they roll, gettin' out of that old dust bowl,
They think they're goin' to a sugar bowl, but here's what they find
Now, the police at the port of entry say,
"You're number fourteen thousand for today."
Oh, if you ain't got the do re mi, folks, you ain't got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot
If you ain't got the do re mi.
You want to buy you a home or a farm, that can't deal nobody harm,
Or take your vacation by the mountains or sea.
Don't swap your old cow for a car, you better stay right where you are,
Better take this little tip from me.
'Cause I look through the want ads every day
But the headlines on the papers always say:
If you ain't got the do re mi, boys, you ain't got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot
If you ain't got the do re mi.
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
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#37More content marketing
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#38Per the article, this is based on an analysis of 1,200 searches done on their platform. It seems like a stretch to use those figures to reach conclusions for a city of over 800,000 residents.
The outbound relocation effect went from 57% to 90%. I suspect that 1200 samples is more than enough to demonstrate strong statistical confidence intervals. (Though I haven't run the numbers.)
They are if they're a representative sample. Margin of error is bounded by 1/sqrt(n) in that case.
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#39> But there are many reasons why the region could finally be experiencing a shrinking population: And yet the author is missing the elephant in the room: the incredibly deteriorating living conditions in a city crammed with drug addicts, human feces and casual violent aggressions at all hours of the day. A city that enables the "homeless lifestyle" without any accountability. Homelessness is - for the most part in Sa…
How do you propose to solve said drug addiction and homeless lifestyle?
Well for starters, not allowing open air drug dealing and arresting illegal drug dealers in the streets. Cooperating with ICE, and so on. Starting to take action against homeless that do refuse housing because they enjoy the homeless lifestyle, which in turn will make it less attractive for non-native homeless to come to San Francisco.
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#40> But there are many reasons why the region could finally be experiencing a shrinking population: And yet the author is missing the elephant in the room: the incredibly deteriorating living conditions in a city crammed with drug addicts, human feces and casual violent aggressions at all hours of the day. A city that enables the "homeless lifestyle" without any accountability. Homelessness is - for the most part in Sa…
How do you propose to solve said drug addiction and homeless lifestyle?
Outlaw street-level drug use.