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Re: Firefox 76

#31

Post by losvedir »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #30

> The shadow around the address bar field is reduced in width when a new tab is opened; I mean, at least they're trying, I guess. Still seems to me like lipstick on a pig. I'm still trying to figure out what UX problem the expanding bar was intended to address.

Oh, that's intentional? I had no idea what was going on and am just now realizing I haven't had a weird bug or something this whole time.

edit: just remembered because it happened again. I'm not sure if it's related but I often find now that when I type "n" the bar doesn't autocomplete "ews.ycombinator.com" with the rest of the text highlighted anymore. It still goes there if I hit enter, though.

Re: Firefox 76

#32

Post by Wowfunhappy »

losvedir wrote: post #31
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #30

> The shadow around the address bar field is reduced in width when a new tab is opened; I mean, at least they're trying, I guess. Still seems to me like lipstick on a pig. I'm still trying to figure out what UX problem the expanding bar was intended to address.

Oh, that's intentional? I had no idea what was going on and am just now realizing I haven't had a weird bug or something this whole time. edit: just remembered because it happened again. I'm not sure if it's related but I often find now that when I type "n" the bar doesn't autocomplete "ews.ycombinator.com" with the rest of the text highlighted anymore. It still goes there if I hit enter, though.

It looks broken, doesn't it?! It's because the spacing doesn't match anything else in the UI. Graphic design usually follows a grid system.

I'm just so perplexed by the whole thing.

Re: Firefox 76

#33

Post by phren0logy »

nathancahill wrote: post #29
narag wrote: post #3

Anybody using Firefox password manager that can comment on it? Is it considered safe enough? Are the passwords stored remotely if you have multi-device profiles? Edit: I asked because I see that some of the updats are related.

It's really nice. Better than any other browser password manager. I've resisted using the browser's until now (I have 1Password) but the sync feature is slick for iOS.

The only thing holding me back is iOS support for changing the default browser. Here's to hoping the rumors about iOS 14 are true, and I'll be able to switch everywhere.

Re: Firefox 76

#34

Post by choward »

losvedir wrote: post #31
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #30

> The shadow around the address bar field is reduced in width when a new tab is opened; I mean, at least they're trying, I guess. Still seems to me like lipstick on a pig. I'm still trying to figure out what UX problem the expanding bar was intended to address.

Oh, that's intentional? I had no idea what was going on and am just now realizing I haven't had a weird bug or something this whole time. edit: just remembered because it happened again. I'm not sure if it's related but I often find now that when I type "n" the bar doesn't autocomplete "ews.ycombinator.com" with the rest of the text highlighted anymore. It still goes there if I hit enter, though.

I noticed this after upgrading my OS and thought something horrible had happened. Turned out to be true but it was intentional by Mozilla. If it's not broke, break it I guess.

Re: Firefox 76

#35

Post by freeAgent »

nathancahill wrote: post #29
narag wrote: post #3

Anybody using Firefox password manager that can comment on it? Is it considered safe enough? Are the passwords stored remotely if you have multi-device profiles? Edit: I asked because I see that some of the updats are related.

It's really nice. Better than any other browser password manager. I've resisted using the browser's until now (I have 1Password) but the sync feature is slick for iOS.

Two things prevent me from switching away from 1Password: 2FA token support and shared credentials between multiple users (a shared family vault in 1Password). I could probably deal without the latter, but I definitely don't want to give up my auto-fillable 2FA codes.

Re: Firefox 76

#36

Post by chrismorgan »

joaomsa wrote: post #17
chrismorgan wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to figure out who to talk to on both Firefox and Chrome sides to beg that they adopt a scheme like YYYY.MM.minor for their version numbering. I believe that would be superior for basically everyone —web developers, users, &c. (In the case of Firefox, it works especially well since they’re releasing approximately monthly now. I could imagine people on Chrome puzzling over why some month numbers got skipped—not…

Might affect (dumb) uses that rely on the current increasing version number scheme in user agent strings and package/deployment scripts.

User agent strings are progressively being frozen, so that shouldn’t affect anything.

Re: Firefox 76

#37

Post by choward »

chrismorgan wrote: post #16
influx wrote: post #11

Firefox made a huge mistake following in Chrome's trail with the version numbering scheme. I just don't care about Firefox 76, is it a big change? Is there some new feature I would want to try? Who knows, I'm sure Firefox 77 will be out soon though!

I want to figure out who to talk to on both Firefox and Chrome sides to beg that they adopt a scheme like YYYY.MM.minor for their version numbering. I believe that would be superior for basically everyone —web developers, users, &c. (In the case of Firefox, it works especially well since they’re releasing approximately monthly now. I could imagine people on Chrome puzzling over why some month numbers got skipped—not…

I agree. The first thing I think when I see a version is "how old is this?". Version numbers as they are now are completely arbitrary (nobody really follows semantic versioning no matter how hard they try). Might as well encode some useful information into them. I'm thankful a lot of the Linux stuff I use follows this.

Re: Firefox 76

#38

Post by chrismorgan »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #24
influx wrote: post #11

Firefox made a huge mistake following in Chrome's trail with the version numbering scheme. I just don't care about Firefox 76, is it a big change? Is there some new feature I would want to try? Who knows, I'm sure Firefox 77 will be out soon though!

You always want to be on the latest one, because that's where the security fixes are. And if you care about what's in it just read the release notes.

But in real life as a developer, not all of your users are using the latest one. If you depend on a certain feature, it’s a pain after looking up the version that started supporting it, to then have to look up what time that number corresponds to. (e.g. “that’s last month’s browser” is a bit different from “that got fixed in the browser two years ago, please update”).

Re: Firefox 76

#39

Post by ufo »

nunodonato wrote: post #5
narag wrote: post #3

Anybody using Firefox password manager that can comment on it? Is it considered safe enough? Are the passwords stored remotely if you have multi-device profiles? Edit: I asked because I see that some of the updats are related.

I've been using it since it was introduced. I no longer think about my passwords. Everytime I register in a new website, I just right-click -> generate secure password, it auto-fills and saves it. One password for every website. Yes, they are stored remotely with Firefox Sync. I just love this browser more and more

Can you use it as a password manager for things that are not websites as well? And is there a way to associate additional data together with the passwords, such as answers to security questions?

Those were the two main things that made me use a separate password manager app in the first place.

Re: Firefox 76

#40

Post by padenot »

nathancahill wrote: post #28
CameronNemo wrote: post #2

>Firefox now supports Audio Worklets that will allow more complex audio processing like VR and gaming on the web; and is being adopted by some of your favorite software programs. > With this change, you can now join Zoom calls on Firefox without the need for any additional downloads.

I wonder if it'll fix the fans going nuts on google.com/ video calls.

It's unlikely that AudioWorklet will fix a video call issue (zoom is alone in using it, because it doesn't use regular WebRTC facilities), but we're aware of performance issues, and they are being addressed.

In particular the graphics layer is being rewritten (the WebRender project), and exciting new developments are coming these days (in particular usage of the OS compositor to composite some bits of the page, that saves lots of watts).

This is particularly important for video calls, because often you're playing back multiple videos at once, so any inefficiency when compositing video is made worse.

Other things that are coming is to implement new ways to signal temporal or spatial scalability (telling other peers that videos flowing should be lower/higher fps, lower/higher resolution), this will also help.

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