I recall some ads from the 1980s saying "No coding required - just use our scripting language!" It must have been a successful pitch, as the ads lasted for years.
No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
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Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
#32Making ? Surely you meant raising.
Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
#33So basically the "no-code" founders that are making money are the ones building "no-code" tools for people who can't code and those teaching people to start "no-code business."
I can't imagine you can build or even conceive a complex app without understanding the technicalities of how it all works. It seems to me majority of the no code tools are used for content websites with payments.
Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
#34No-code is a funny term and I'm not sure what it means. I would understand if it was non-dev or something similar. But most "no-code" people I know who work on side projects can edit basic javascript/etc, but couldn't write much from scratch. I'd imagine this group is the subset the author is looking at. If you want to look at people who actually can't code, they are likely non-technical, and not using a tool like za…
It’s funny to think about the differences in technical ability here. I build stuff for people to edit that our team often ends up editing for them. It’s not a complex CMS. People just get nervous and/or are lazy. Just existing in the digital age is a struggle or an annoyance for them, let alone this.
Occasionally I run into someone in Marketing/Sales who is in love with the idea of Zapier. It’s always Maslow’s hammer run amok.
My guess is this no-code thing is just taking advantage of the increasingly large, seemingly untapped demographic you mentioned here. They just don’t realize the actual cost they’re committing themselves to.
Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
#35No-code = code from another person
So they're also a computer company after they buy a Macbook?
Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
#36Would you consider something like Collibra https://www.collibra.com/ to be no-code? They seem to be exploding at the moment.
How about SAP or Salesforce?
Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?
#37I don’t really understand what “no code” is. You can put up a storefront and conduct business without writing a line of code, simply by adding plug ins to Wordpress, calling out to stripe etc. The result is somewhat templatized and slightly generic looking but that’s great: your value comes from the content, as the author correctly describes, and the visitor will presumably understand navigation etc. This kind of pro…
Usually it means you're still coding, but entering the "code" into forms and wizards instead of text. After that inevitably fails there are usually text coding fallbacks that require 10 times more code than if you'd written the whole thing from scratch.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's always the case though. The reason why we use programming languages is because we need the expressiveness they offer. Attempting to simplify it any further severely limits the type of applications you can build. And so you end up with cookie cutter apps. It might be fun, it might even be useful for some back office tasks, but if the marginal cost to produce a thing goes to near zero, it would imply the supply…
A lot nocode or lowcode tools are visual programming languages; they are in fact just programming tools but look (and often are) simpler to start off with. But when you need more, you are in fact programming with code, just via a visual interface. Which indeed can (will) become painful for many tasks. Then you are using the wrong tool for the job. Thing is, and this differs per market; most companies do not need anyt…
> When companies I work with look for no/low code, the only reason they will not use it is vendor lock in; if they cannot run on premise and/or ‘eject’ the code, they will not use it. Several products allow this
What nocode tools don't have lock-in? The ones I know which are open source still have these proprietary add-ons for important stuff like authentication or connecting to other systems.
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You're missing the part where that's a good thing, that's why you don't get the usefulness of these tools.