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Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Sure, but its the same processor as in all current iPhones. I guess "most expensive iPhone faster than most expensive Android phone" isn't quite as click-grabbing. Apple's SoCs have been faster than Qualcomm's for a number of years, so this is hardly news worthy either.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

#32

And yet, my cheap android phone has two things that are infinitely more important to me: an aux port and an SD card slot. My phone would be fundamentally less usable (for me) without them, while quicker switching between apps etc would be a minor benefit at most. Chasing statistics (Fastest processor! Most megapixels! Longest battery life!) becomes useless after a certain point. Processors and megapixels are long pas…

My wife currently has an android phone with those two.

I just picked up the new iphone se for her and explained twice “there is no headphone jack”.

She replied: “Cool, so I can keep my headphones plugged in to the laptop and use the other headphones for the phone. In worse case, I have bt headphones”.

With the SD card... I mean, it seems not possible to configure any app to store data on it. She has signal, whatsapp, broswer, spotify and a few photos and the phone is constantly complaining that it is low on storage.

Androind is working well for my mother though. She is 70+. She doesn’t use any apps, simple text messages, phone calls and that’s it. She just has to buy a new battery like every 6 months...

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

#33

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

The iPhone XR models should have been the new SE and the iPhone 8 body should have gone. Apple is a joke when it comes to these things.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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post #22

Tell me when it can use that powerful processor to run an engine other than webkit

Could you expand on this comment more? Engines that run on Android vs iOS maybe? Just curious :)

Very likely more a point about freedom. Apple does not allow Firefox to use it's own engine under iOS

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

#35

And yet, my cheap android phone has two things that are infinitely more important to me: an aux port and an SD card slot. My phone would be fundamentally less usable (for me) without them, while quicker switching between apps etc would be a minor benefit at most. Chasing statistics (Fastest processor! Most megapixels! Longest battery life!) becomes useless after a certain point. Processors and megapixels are long pas…

Honestly, what do you use the SD card for?

Even with movies for flights, I haven’t filled a phone up in years.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

#36

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

As a side note, Pixel 3a got discounted down to $300 a few months after the release, which I think is a fair price for a phone of its specs and software support period. It was definitely too expensive for me for its asked release price.

I'm generally a fan of Apple hardware, but the 3a was the best phone I've owned in a long time. It doesn't have anti-features like slippery glass back or notch and has a headphone jack. And the best thing about it is the battery life - 3-4 days with 6 hours of total screen time.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

#37

Tell me when it can use that powerful processor to run an engine other than webkit

I kinda like the way they're doing things. It reminds me of the IE6 times, but with no decent options. I guess I'm a sucker for nostalgia.

At least the browsers can freeze, crash and hit more bugs per hour with a faster CPU, so at least it got that going for it.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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post #35

And yet, my cheap android phone has two things that are infinitely more important to me: an aux port and an SD card slot. My phone would be fundamentally less usable (for me) without them, while quicker switching between apps etc would be a minor benefit at most. Chasing statistics (Fastest processor! Most megapixels! Longest battery life!) becomes useless after a certain point. Processors and megapixels are long pas…

Honestly, what do you use the SD card for? Even with movies for flights, I haven’t filled a phone up in years.

To store 4K & 8K videos my phone takes for instance?

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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post #11

i don't care. what i care about is that the cheapest iPhone has a longer support period than the most expensive Android. it's actually insane and infuriating because I don't even like Apple but there literally is no other choice if you don't want to switch your phone every two years.

It really depends on what support you need - yes, the latest and greatest bling is dropped soon, but Samsung offers 4 years of security updates - that's quite a bit of time. You'll probably have a really bad battery by that point and it's probably worth an upgrade. You won't have all the latest and greatest OS bling, but you wouldn't have the latest and greatest anything but that point, and that's probably OK.

Security updates that get released months after its supposed to?

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

#40
> Apple is laying out a roadmap for exactly what Google needs to do with its own chips.

To ask the question: why would Google make better processors than Qualcomm?

Apple has immense economies of scale at the high-end because that's the only thing they sell. Google's processor would be more niche than Qualcomm's (since manufacturers would need a Qualcomm modem to go with it rather than just grabbing an integrated Snapdragon modem/CPU) and it would be smaller than Apple's in sales since high-end Android phones aren't the main part of that market. This seems like one of those instances where people believe that Google can do better in any market. Google is a great, smart company, but we've seen them fail a lot too. Android Wear didn't take off with Tizen becoming Samsung's wearable OS and Google eventually buying Fitbit. We saw Google buy Motorola just to sell them off as a failed experiment. We've seen Google Fiber stall out as Google couldn't make it work. The Nexus/Pixel line has been ok, but it hasn't changed the industry. Chromebooks seem to be fading.

Why should Google be able to enter the mobile CPU game and do better?

Not only that, but would manufacturers even want something better? Manufacturers want customers to keep buying new phones as often as possible. If Google comes out with a CPU that's 70% better and could last a customer for 4-5 years, would they want to buy it? Apple is really unique in that they're the only company really giving you a good experience for an extended period of time. But part of that is that Apple knows that a good device from them creates loyalty because there's no iOS alternative. If you're an Android manufacturer, you know that a customer's choice for their next device could be any number of different brands offering nearly identical Android experiences.

Does this even matter for Google? What part of Google's bottom line would this help? More people using Android devices certainly helps, but would a better processor convince iPhone users to move to Android?

I guess I'm failing to see how a better processor helps Google enough to justify spending all the R&D on it and why Google would be better at building this processor than the companies already creating mobile processors. For Apple, it gives them a differentiator and the ability to control their platform and their destiny - and likely control their laptop platform in the near future. They can specifically target the CPU and build what makes sense. For Android, this CPU might be 10% of Android devices, but it wouldn't become an assumption. It wouldn't create loyalty for a manufacturer since the same CPU/OS combo could be had via other options. We're just talking about increasing the price and complexity of a device they don't want to continue supporting anyway.

And I still haven't seen why Google would be able to beat Qualcomm, Samsung, HiSilicon, etc.

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