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Re: Privacy Not Included

#32
post #25

I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…

I could just makea policy that you have zero privacy and I'm going to sell all of the data: great now I can be on this page!

Re: Privacy Not Included

#33
post #25

I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…

Does anything not have a privacy policy?

Education insights policy seems to only apply to the site, not the product https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/product...

Re: Privacy Not Included

#35
post #25

I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…

I feel infantalized after looking at that site, maybe I'm not the target audience but the people that this is targeting I would imagine feel like that too.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't look very closely at the website and just jumped to conclusions, didn't you? They rank all the ones you mentioned as "Super creepy".

Other way around Mozilla is endorsing google home as 5/5 "Overall Security Rating". Users going to this site have rated google home as creepy. Mozilla is not the one saying it's creepy they are giving it the 5/5.

Should Mozilla lie and say that the Google Home is insecure?

"Insecure" and "Creepy" are not the same thing.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#37
post #3

I opted out of the Firefox/Android data collection setting. Then I was recently updated to the new Firefox Beta: https://snipboard.io/139WEH.jpg Privacy not included.

Looks like you were one of the unlucky 10%: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/mobile/android/mma.h...

It seems they've been using Leanplum for some time; I'm surprised I hadn't heard anything about it. It looks like they're not using it for advertising purposes, at least.

I'm surprised they wouldn't at least restrict it to only users who had enabled usage data (i.e., not enable it for users who had clearly already expressed a preference for privacy).

I'm also surprised they didn't do this in-house. Sending data to a third party, no matter how trustworthy that party seems, is not good a good look for a product that is advertised as privacy preserving.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#38

This is a good resource, but the presentation needs work. The big emoji smiley face on top implies that all the products listed below are "good," but you have to actually click through on the product to see the actual rating (like Amazon's Ring Doorbell is rated by users as "Super Creepy"). The explanation of their Minimum Security Standards is pretty helpful and reasonable though: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p…

The smiley face actually changes as you scroll down. It’s kind of confusing

Only if you have JavaScript enabled, which people who care about privacy are less likely to do. And even then it's not clear which products it applies to.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#39
Is Mozilla's new browser on Android not included on that list?

It contains 3 trackers [1]:

Adjust

Google Firebase Analytics

LeanPlum

It also has telemetry selected by default and is NOT opt-in. So yeah, whether it's hardware or software, you're being spied on any time you use an internet connected device.

[1]: https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/org.mozilla...

Re: Privacy Not Included

#40
post #5

What is Mozilla doing? They are endorsing the 'Google Home'? The 'Ring Doorbell'? Products from Nest? I guess it makes sense, with the amount of money they get from Google- they have to. While these devices might have encryption, security updates, etc, many of the devices listed ABUSE user privacy. Many of the devices here ARE creepy! I could provide 10 links as proof, but it's not even worth the time. You can go ahe…

You didn't look very closely at the website and just jumped to conclusions, didn't you? They rank all the ones you mentioned as "Super creepy".

We generally call not making your intention clear--making one impression more obvious than a detailed inspection--"Dark Patterns".
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