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Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

rakoo wrote: post #17

Unaffiliated, I found migadu ( https://www.migadu.com/en/index.html ) to be extremely easy to set up and having a nice ui to work with. Gives you only the basics but that's all you need. As they say, storage space is not an issue in the 21st century, so the only differentiator between plans is the only thing that matters: the number of outgoing emails. You can have as many domains, as many aliases and as many address…

> Copyright © 2016 AdVite GmbH

This sounds like an advertising company. A person's inbox is the holy grail of info about them.

I don't think I want to use this company for my email. Change my mind?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by wheresvic3 »

This post came at a very opportune time as I was having some issues recently with my email provider and was looking for alternatives. I own my main email address but I do have a few other domains which I would like to have mailboxes for.

Anyways, after some consideration I went with fastmail for my primary email but I will definitely check out purelymail for my other low-traffic domains!

Of course - this also led me into the rabbit hole of realizing that my email is not backed up anywhere :)

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by wheresvic3 »

rakoo wrote: post #17

Unaffiliated, I found migadu ( https://www.migadu.com/en/index.html ) to be extremely easy to set up and having a nice ui to work with. Gives you only the basics but that's all you need. As they say, storage space is not an issue in the 21st century, so the only differentiator between plans is the only thing that matters: the number of outgoing emails. You can have as many domains, as many aliases and as many address…

I used migadu for a couple of years and they were great initially but over the past 4-5 months, I've experienced really degraded service when accessing email and setting tags, deleting etc.

Over the last month, I started getting login timeouts and that was the last straw. Recently I noticed that they put up an announcement saying that they are running at very high loads due to the COVID-19 situation. I'm not quite sure how people working from home affects normal email (I guess people are emailing a bit more?) but anyways once the announcement went away, I still kept experiencing issues so I migrated my primary email over to fastmail.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by gpanders »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #31
rakoo wrote: post #17

Unaffiliated, I found migadu ( https://www.migadu.com/en/index.html ) to be extremely easy to set up and having a nice ui to work with. Gives you only the basics but that's all you need. As they say, storage space is not an issue in the 21st century, so the only differentiator between plans is the only thing that matters: the number of outgoing emails. You can have as many domains, as many aliases and as many address…

> Copyright © 2016 AdVite GmbH This sounds like an advertising company. A person's inbox is the holy grail of info about them. I don't think I want to use this company for my email. Change my mind?

The company is based in Switzerland and is French speaking. Any chance "AdVite" means something different in French?

Apart from that, their website states pretty clearly their privacy policy [1] and other terms [2]. It doesn't look like there is anything shady going on here.

I don't personally use Migadu but I've had it bookmarked as the "service I would probably use if/when the day comes".

[1]: https://www.migadu.com/en/privacy.html [2]: https://www.migadu.com/en/terms.html

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by gpanders »

akssri wrote: post #21

Gandi may also be an option here - a domain registered with them comes with two free mailboxes, each with a few GBs of space and calendar support. (Yes, yes, this is the same company that lost the data on their cloud servers.)

Gandi is what I use as well and have for years. I follow all these new up-and-coming email services, but I've never had a reason to switch.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by osamagirl69 »

Purely mail does look like a very attractive mail host, filling an interesting niche between the SMTP sever you get from your ISP (or someone like zoneout from zoneedit, which is $1/month for up to 50 outgoing email per day) and a full on webmail like fastmail.

Honestly for me the $50/year to fastmail to worry about worrying about my mail is worth it, and their webmail/mobile clients are great if that is your thing.

Really the main thing here is to move your mail over to a custom domain, and these guys really make that a lot cheaper. $15/year for the domain and another $10/year for mail is absolutely worth it to remove your mail provider as a single point of failure in your email.

PS - if you are looking for a good android mail client, I have had good luck with K-9. It takes a bit of getting used to when migrating over from the built in android mail, but if you stick with it and figure out how to configure it correctly it works great. The main configuration changes I had to make were putting a shortcut for 'move to archive' and getting android configured to let it run in the background so notifications work correctly.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by thanksforfish »

yumraj wrote: post #20
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #3

I am very surprised a "one man show" was the author's final choice here: What if the one man gets hit by a bus? FastMail is probably worth the increased cost to avoid that concern alone. But in general, I am excited to see anyone moving to their own email domain, decentralized is how email was always supposed to be. EDIT: A huge terms issue with PurelyMail is "The Company may, at its sole discretion, terminate servic…

Fair comment, but all of those concerns are mitigated if you: 1) use your own domain(s) 2) take frequent backups so, even if the purely mail dies, you have access to historical emails and since you own the domains you can migrate to another provider pretty quickly and again, since you own the domain any accounts that are connected to that email address/domain combo are not impacted.

How many people are actively backing up their email on their own? Backing up email seems much simpler than running your own email server, but it's still going to require some technical know how.

To me, the comment that you can just manage your own backups suggests that the service isn't right for anyone nontechnical or technical people who are too busy to backup a hosted service.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by Felz »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #3

I am very surprised a "one man show" was the author's final choice here: What if the one man gets hit by a bus? FastMail is probably worth the increased cost to avoid that concern alone. But in general, I am excited to see anyone moving to their own email domain, decentralized is how email was always supposed to be. EDIT: A huge terms issue with PurelyMail is "The Company may, at its sole discretion, terminate servic…

Hi! I am the "Scott" from Purelymail in question. In the hopefully unlikely event I'm hit by a bus, I do have friends who could step in to keep it running for a while. One of my infrastructural goals is also to have it run itself without manual intervention, where feasible. It's not 100% there yet, though. (Hence the beta.)

As to the terms of service, as far as I know the clause you quoted is fairly standard cover-your-ass. I've probably seen it in a few other service terms. Presumably, Fastmail words it as they do because they've covered all the reasons they might want to do so in their terms already, and have decades of legal experience.

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