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Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by drewbeck » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 4:34 AM UTC

Super interesting, thanks!

I’ve been doing zoom teleparties for a few weeks now and they’re really kind of magical. I started when I had to cancel one of my IRL dance parties and we thought we’d give it a go. As a meatspace party promoter and DJ i was really surprised at how successful these are, and how much of the real life party vibe translates. At our peak we had 160 or so zoom guests and you really felt that presence!

With the apps we have now social interactions are limited to chat and physical communication (lots of people will mirror folks’ movements, which is always a joy). There’s so much you can do.

I’ve got a ton of ideas and sketches for a real online party and event app — a kind of perfect blend of my UX life and my party life. I’d love to work on it if I could find some folks with web conferencing experience.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by rumcajz » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 4:37 AM UTC

stagas wrote: post #26

There are two types of partying: raving and clubbing. Clubbing, is for extroverts who enjoy socializing and being on the spotlight. Clubs have lots of lights, people dress in shiny colors and seek to bring attention to themselves. Camera sharing is the ideal format for this. Raving, is for introverts. The setting is dark, people wear black and usually prefer to be left on their own and focus internally and in the mus…

OTOH, I, as an introvert, appreciate presence of extroverts at parties because they divert attention to themselves and thus create kind of sheltered zones around themselves, quite comfortable for introverts to be in.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by rumcajz » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 4:45 AM UTC

dhosek wrote: post #2

A lot of in-person interaction for groups is just not possible with most (all?) conferencing solutions, e.g., sidebar discussions. Some of this can be handled through texts (which are an occasional solution in in-person meetings as well—in grad school, I was occasionally in group texts mocking the person speaking to our class), although there's the danger that messages might pop up inopportunely while screen sharing…

Interesting problem. It would be partly solved by the look-and-look-back protocol, because then it's obvious that you are speaking to a single person. But then, it could still happen that you accidentally avert your gaze and drop back to the common chatroom, making what you are saying audible to everyone.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by drewbeck » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 4:57 AM UTC

stagas wrote: post #26

There are two types of partying: raving and clubbing. Clubbing, is for extroverts who enjoy socializing and being on the spotlight. Clubs have lots of lights, people dress in shiny colors and seek to bring attention to themselves. Camera sharing is the ideal format for this. Raving, is for introverts. The setting is dark, people wear black and usually prefer to be left on their own and focus internally and in the mus…

Well yes, and actually the OP is about even another kind. The article references a birthday party, which is more of a general social event vs a music or participatory/thematic event which is what you’re talking about. Interestingly, the dance club environment seems easier to elicit online than the birthday party. The birthday party is all about the social chit chat dynamics whereas the club environments have a primary focus on the music (even tho there’s plenty of other interactions as well). Online if you have faces + music, you have a dance party, or a decent facsimile.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by blhack » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 5:21 AM UTC

jonnydubowsky wrote: post #22

blhack wrote: post #4

We’ve been running “dial up dance parties” in Phoenix for the last few weeks. A DJ streams music to a zoom hangout, and people dance in front of their camera. The magic bit is that there is a new curation job beyond djing: curating who is be “spotlighted” at the current time. So my and my wife’s job (we have been organizing and promoting these parties) is to watch all of the participants and pick out who should get s…

Cool concept! Are people paying to attend the event?

No, but the next task is to figure out how to let them tip the DJs.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by jhurliman » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 6:00 AM UTC

crooked-v wrote: post #30

jvm___ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a jit.si post on here where someone made a 2d map. If you were standing close to them on the map you heard the if voice. Further away people were ignored.

There are a few Minecraft mods that implement this kind of behavior, and I could swear I saw it baked into a shooter game somewhere but I can't remember which one.

Not exactly a shooter game, but Second Life has had this feature for a while based on Vivox and OpenAL (http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Voice/Technical).

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by arketyp » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 6:05 AM UTC

Imagine if everybody wore head cams. You could end up with complex strange loops reflecting intimacy and eye contact of an inverted kind.

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by oskenso » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 6:15 AM UTC

I'm really surprised no one has brought up VRChat. Though the hardware requirement may be a steeper barrier to entry, the software is free (non libre) and the experience is unlike any other

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by Geeflow » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 6:42 AM UTC

I recently stumbled upon Airmeet[1]. It's not really for birthday parties, more like networking events. Still, I find the concept intriguing.

They offer a kind of socializing space. It is organized by virtual tables. Each table holds up to 4 participants via webcam. That way you do not have the typical issue of large zoom calls where only a few people can talk at a time. You get a lot smaller conversations much like a real networking event.

They seem to be still starting out, so there are a few issues. But I hope they iron them out. The concept seems really promising.

[1]: https://www.airmeet.com/

Re: Partying over Internet: Technological Aspects

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Post by fragmede » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 7:53 AM UTC

blhack wrote: post #4

We’ve been running “dial up dance parties” in Phoenix for the last few weeks. A DJ streams music to a zoom hangout, and people dance in front of their camera. The magic bit is that there is a new curation job beyond djing: curating who is be “spotlighted” at the current time. So my and my wife’s job (we have been organizing and promoting these parties) is to watch all of the participants and pick out who should get s…

Something like http://kosmi.io or a different Rabb.it successor may fit better than Zoom. Many of the DJs in my circle have also been trying out Twitch for this purpose.