Is anyone surprised?
https://www.zdnet.com/article/zoom-defends-use-of-local-web-...
Zoom monitors activity on your computer
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#32I also heard that Zoom has a lot of CCP influence in terms of its investment mix, CEO is Chinese (take it with a grain of salt) and generally, there is nervousness around the chinese influence and surveillance.
Speculation based on racial profiling, aside from the obvious fairness issues, is actively damaging to the privacy cause in the US because it frames the issue in nationalist terms. This diverts attention from the more insidious threat of American government spying on American citizens, slowly boiling the frog of our privacy and paving the way for a future repressive regime and police state.
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#33From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…
This is standard language to cover everything in normal use. Billing details is obvious. Profile info is provided when you signup and use the service. The system info is used to run and optimize the calls.
Zoom isn't actively scraping your info, and there's 0 evidence of anything in the Tweet.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
These don't look that bad, but what's describe in a tweet (tracking focus app etc) is much worse, it doesn't seem to be in the privacy policy though (or they masked it?). So where's the information about focused window come from?
There is a feature for when doing webinars that can track focus: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115000538083-Atten...
That's awful.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your name, physical address, email address, phone number, employment, credit card, Facebook profile, IP address, MAC address, device ID...is not that bad?
That data is either required to run or provided to them by you directly.
I haven't provided them with most of that.
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#36Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer
#37When someone sends you a zoom invite, cancel the download, then click the having problems link to download again. Cancel it again. It will show you a link to join by browser.
A few other meeting apps have dark patterns like this. One of my favorite things about Hangouts Meet is it's web first.
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#38That’s why we have been building https://qbix.com/platform To have an open source alternative. Want videoconferencing on your own site? You can! See here for instance. https://yang2020.app/meeting We have a harder challenge of making all the SDP offers work cross browser, but Chrome should def work. Code: https://github.com/Qbix (If you like it, star it lol ⭐️) Contact me if you want to learn how to use the Qbix plat…
> Can’t we just nominate a few of the browsers to do what the SFU does, namely forwarding video to the others?
IIRC this is basically what skype did back when it was P2P, those clients were called supernodes and would route calls for clients that could not be directly P2P. To be a supernode you needed to be internet-routable and have good bandwidth.
Supernodes could be used for hole punching or to relay calls (as you talk about).
See more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_protocol
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#39Super timely. Even on my linux box I noticed yesterday that zoom, even though I had "closed" the application, was still running `ps -ef | grep zoom` so I killed it.
After reading this, I've deleted it too. Super weird.
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#40From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…
So, all this doesn't sound great, but... the specific accusation in the tweet is that they're tracking other applications that are open. Their privacy policy does not say they do that, and the Zoom twitter account says they don't either[0]. Now, it's a matter of trust, of course (and after [1] I wouldn't blame people for a lack of trust), but to state authoritatively that Zoom tracks other open applications seems like completely unsubstantiated fear-mongering.
[0] https://twitter.com/zoom_us/status/1241768006327336963
[1] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2019/07/zoom_vulnerab...