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Re: Farewell

#31
I think an important facet of open source is portraying the right expectations.

I feel like I have an inverse problem to the one the author describes. Personally I work on projects for a really long time in private, not having to worry about dealing with other people since everything is done by me only, and wonder how I should eventually portray the project to the public. My motivation to do things shifts wildly from week to week, and I can spend months at a time on one single project and suddenly just stop cold one day as if it never happened. I keep wondering how that's compatible with involving yourself with the community, if they'll wonder where I'm at a month from now. In my case the project is specifically meant for contribution for other people or it won't take off (a mod system) so it feels inevitable I'd have to do it some day. But I don't know if I can keep it up after it's announced without getting burnt out by interacting with people, and delivering on the things I want to accomplish. I'm reminded of the author of uBlock Origin specifically refusing donations for this reason, to ensure he feels no sense of responsibility to "make good" on what people give him. He also mentions the same motivation issue.

I have at one point been in a spot where I've worked on something with a similar amount of zeal for months on end, literally every single day, then dropped it out of nowhere, then had someone come up to me and ask me to finish it with them, and then literally being unable to get myself to write more code. Like, I was sitting at the screen, doing nothing at all for hours, unable to bring myself to care. Even though this person reached out to me personally over one of my projects, which had never happened before in my life, and I liked their company! Part of me still wanted it to be finished too. But I just didn't feel like it anymore. I feel a lot of guilt over that, still. So I know I have been in that spot before.

I keep working at my current projects though, regardless of the amount of progress. It's just an interesting hobby right now, if a somewhat obsessive one. I'm always reminded of the portrayal of Robert Graysmith in the film Zodiac, where he explains he does so much investigation into the titular case "because nobody else will." That's exactly how I feel with my long-term projects. Perhaps byuu felt the same at some point. Maybe that attitude is what got me this far all along.

Still, so many times I feel like I'm just grasping at straws or not making the progress I want. But giving it to the community leaves a sense of obligation if I have these goals that are still left unfulfilled, which I easily end up imagining worst-case leading into whatever drama of "such and such project not doing what it envisions." And of course I will never expect someone to pick up the torch, tempting as it feels. They could, but in the end it's their choice, and I have no right to obligate them.

This thought bothers me a lot. What reminded me of this in relation to the article specifically was the author's mention of wishing he could just code in peace without all the extra baggage surrounding the project and other things in his life he describes. Currently I would describe myself as "coding in peace," it being closed-source at the moment, and I'm wondering if I'll end up getting myself into all that someday. Then again, the alternative feels like wandering aimlessly in this solitary coding marathon for months on end at a glacial rate of progress, not quite knowing if my designs or implementations are the "right" way to advance the project, which feels equally troublesome. I don't feel smart (or perhaps arrogant) enough to believe that outright. And also, wasn't I supposed to use this thing if it does get finished? Otherwise why spend so long coding it up at all?

After a while this cycle of thinking wears me out. I can totally understand the author's feelings, even if they aren't quite caused by the same reasons. It's a lot of time spent on a small amount of things, in the pursuit of these potentially lofty goals. I guess it's necessary to step back every once in a while and reframe things.

That doesn't even go into careers, which is a different boat entirely.

All that might have been a random tangent. It's just a thought I've been mulling over.

Anyway, I should say this: Thanks, byuu, for all your contributions to the emulation scene over the years. Give yourself a good block of vacation and go explore Tokyo sometime. You deserve it.

Re: Farewell

#32
post #5

What, specifically, has byuu said in the past that has lead him to need to disappear?

If you want to slog through it here is the post mentioned in the OP: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430...

I would like to point out that byuu's recent response to that thread was composed and dignified: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430.... As someone with who wasn't familiar with the drama I came away with the impression that byuu handled it rather well in the end (and also has grown as a person thanks to it).

It does make me wonder if from the perspective of PR and reducing further trolling posting a calm, eloquent and self-deprecating defense is better or worse than not responding at all. What would you do if you had a Kiwi Farms thread with your embarrassing posts, some very old?

(Throwaway because I don't want a link to Kiwi Farms in my post history.)

Re: Farewell

#33
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to slog through it here is the post mentioned in the OP: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430...

I would like to point out that byuu's recent response to that thread was composed and dignified: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430... . As someone with who wasn't familiar with the drama I came away with the impression that byuu handled it rather well in the end (and also has grown as a person thanks to it). It does make me wonder if from the perspective of PR and reducing further trolling…

I clicked that link expecting to be horrified and was still shocked by the first thing I glanced at. Thanks for linking, but I wouldn't advise anyone to click it. It's not worth it.

Re: Farewell

#34
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find 4chan a quite friendly place in contrast. This forum seems focused on hate and trying to harm people.

Wow, you all weren't joking. That place is the chunks at the bottom of a cesspool. Even 4chan /b/ is friendlier.

They're the kind of people who try to make themselves sound reasonable by saying some of their members are also part of vulnerable communities, then turn around and call people "spergs" as an insult and let it slide.

In the end, all that matters to them is if they get a good laugh out of it, as it always has been.

Re: Farewell

#35

I'll believe byuu cares about preserving history when he's stopped blocking the Wayback Machine from archiving his site. Edit: The good work someone has done is no excuse for anything. > The problem is that the internet is not like any other time in human history: everything we ever say and do gets recorded and indexed, all readily available to anyone curious, for all of time. This is new, and it's something that soc…

Wanting to preserve art† (which people make with an expectation that it will be shared and preserved, even after their death), and waiting to preserve every detail about the minutiae of people’s lives, are very different wants.

Certainly, cultural anthropologists wish we had more preservation of life-minutiae, because it would make their own jobs easier; but most people don’t agree. Meanwhile, basically everyone agrees we should be preserving art.

† Where by “art”, I mean works made in lasting media. The preservation of performance art is... divisive, to say the least.

Re: Farewell

#36
post #12

(For those who don't know, Byuu is a member here and will likely see comments in this thread.) Hi Byuu. You don't know me, but I've been a fan of your work since the early days of bsnes. I've also seen at least some of your "detractors'" criticisms, while lurking. (My "favorite" was that you don't know enough math to emulate the 3D graphics of the N64, because you didn't stay in school. I didn't know they taught how…

Just want to say the same. Take care of yourself, and illegitemi non carborundum.

Re: Farewell

#37
post #16
post #12

(For those who don't know, Byuu is a member here and will likely see comments in this thread.) Hi Byuu. You don't know me, but I've been a fan of your work since the early days of bsnes. I've also seen at least some of your "detractors'" criticisms, while lurking. (My "favorite" was that you don't know enough math to emulate the 3D graphics of the N64, because you didn't stay in school. I didn't know they taught how…

Working on bsnes and higan were the things that made me most happy. Well, bug hunting was of course stressful but the joy of fixing a bug and seeing new games running was always well worth it! I'm definitely going to miss it a lot. It was everything else that was a problem. If I could have just been left alone to code in peace and without all these pesky health and work issues, I'd be very happy to continue. I think…

> Working on bsnes and higan were the things that made me most happy.

What about this work made you happy? What was the reward? You might be able to capture it in a different way.

I don’t get the sense that it was something to do with making the people who used your emulators happy, per se, so probably “solving someone’s problem and seeing them light up” isn’t going to do it for you.

I’d guess that helping to conserve other artistic expressions [to ensure people can experience them the same way they did on the original hardware, long after you’re gone] would make you happy? Especially if you could use your specialized knowledge and experience to do so, in a way where it’s not necessarily true that anyone else would have come along to do the same thing if you hadn’t done it.

Perhaps you could volunteer in a consulting/advisory capacity for some of the Archive.org software-library preservation projects? Not so much programming, as pointing out the pitfalls in the architectural decisions of what other people are programming. Like a software security consultant, but for “ensuring the original work is conserved and reproduced with 100% fidelity” instead of “ensuring nobody can exploit the software.”

Re: Farewell

#38
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to slog through it here is the post mentioned in the OP: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430...

I would like to point out that byuu's recent response to that thread was composed and dignified: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430... . As someone with who wasn't familiar with the drama I came away with the impression that byuu handled it rather well in the end (and also has grown as a person thanks to it). It does make me wonder if from the perspective of PR and reducing further trolling…

Hey it could be worse, imagine having a link to your own KF thread in a frontpage HN article. Now that's a bad look ^-^;

Referring to GP, of course. I appreciate the link to my reply. For any folks here that read the post, please also read my reply if you don't mind. For folks who don't read the thread at all, just note that this is about me saying dumb things online, mostly when I was a young adult. I haven't actually done anything heinous nor are there substantiated allegations to that effect.

Specifically, my reason for stepping down is because in spite of doing my best to change and better myself, my mere presence was still dragging down the other developers working on my emulators, and my friends were starting to get dragged into things because of their association with me. They went rather easy on me on KF, but there's another 289 pages of this on 4chan. It got to a point where someone there was compiling a list of my friends' real names, photographs, and where they lived. A friend of mine suffered an anxiety attack when I replied to them on social media. Another was fearful enough to delete her Twitter account.

I can handle criticism and admit my mistakes, but I can't handle other people paying the price for them. I feel personally responsible for that, because I am. If I had behaved more professionally, this wouldn't have happened. So it's on me.

Re: Farewell

#39
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like to point out that byuu's recent response to that thread was composed and dignified: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430... . As someone with who wasn't familiar with the drama I came away with the impression that byuu handled it rather well in the end (and also has grown as a person thanks to it). It does make me wonder if from the perspective of PR and reducing further trolling…

I clicked that link expecting to be horrified and was still shocked by the first thing I glanced at. Thanks for linking, but I wouldn't advise anyone to click it. It's not worth it.

To be fair, I have a much better fursona now ^-^;;

https://twitter.com/Kampidh/status/1234029776144175110

(it's G-rated, don't worry.)

Re: Farewell

#40

I totally feel the "I hate that my only talent is computer programming." I am in the exact same boat. I really don't even like the career anymore, other than the money, which I would trade in a heart-beat for a stable job that allowed more leisure time and made OK money. I worked extremely hard on a start-up for half of my 20s and I ended up with basically nothing to show for it. Employers do not seem that interested…

The job market has been very hard on everyone lately. And looking at current event, I don't think that's going to improve in the foreseeable future.

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