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TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by lonelappde »

daveFNbuck wrote: post #8
nkkollaw wrote: post #3

Well, I guess those videos turn people off and they stay on the app less, and TikTok wants to make money. TikTok works with AI, but the same would happen on Facebook, where people click on "Like" manually. Cry me a river.

This is not about low quality content getting automatically filtered out by an algorithm because people don't like it. This is about TikTok using human moderators to prevent users from ever seeing content made by people they don't like.

What do you think "low quality" means if not "what people don't like"?

TikTok doesn't care who made it; they care how the video looks.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by jjcm »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #20

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

Or news stations, which hire presenters based on attractiveness.

Or fashion products, which hire models based on attractiveness.

Or the music industry, which puts forward pop stars that are attractive while keeping ones that don't have sex appeal off the air.

Or the film industry. Or the literally any other industry that tries to survive via popularity and getting eye time. Attractiveness sells. What TikTok is doing is no different than any other industry, it's just that the models aren't getting paid.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

enitihas wrote: post #22
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #20

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

Humans also prefer being politically correct, so you would surely see a lot of people shaming TikTok here.

> prefer being politically correct

Are you implying that it is only because of a sense of “political correctness” that people would object to discrimination?

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by microcolonel »

ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #24
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #20

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

I think what a lot of nightclubs end up doing is definitely discriminatory and we should not tolerate that.

As someone who does not frequent nightclubs, I don't really see the problem with a self-selecting group of people with standards?

Some people don't want to see you, and that's their business.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by anigbrowl »

Gartner would not explain why a document purportedly aimed at “preventing bullying” would make zero mention of bullying, nor why it offers an explicit justification of attracting users, not protecting them.

PR people really are the worst. It's OK to be rude to them at parties.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by arnaudsm »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #20

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

The "TikTok e-boy" and "Nightclub chad" are probably overlapping demographics.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by calcifer »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #20

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

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Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

> These same documents show moderators were also told to censor political speech in TikTok livestreams, punishing those who harmed “national honor” or broadcast streams about “state organs such as police” with bans from the platform.

This is the story. Why would anyone use a CPC social media platform?

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Post by anigbrowl »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #20

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite.

No, that's how you work.

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