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35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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What was the process of registering a domain name at that time? I've often dreamed about going back in time to when I was a kid and registering a bunch of domains before 1995. What would have been involved?

You sent in a text document to an email address of an actual person if I remember correctly.

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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Is this the same Symbolics that came out of the MIT AI lab? With the LISP machines?

Also creators of the crazy Space Cadet keyboard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard

I see they have convenient up/down vote keys on the righthand side of the board.

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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This made me go look up when Musk bought x.com, turns out only 1999, thought it was older

X.com was registered in 1993 but bought by Musk in 1999. He lost the domain name by leaving the Paypal but bought back the domain name from Paypal in 2017: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/884580654117076992

X.com is one of the few single-character domain names that created before IANA’s restriction of single-letter and single-digit domain names registration in December 1993.

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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First-ever domain was registered in 1985. Many others were kept being registered since then. But what are the first used domains up to these days? 100 Oldest Domain Names & Their Current Status: https://dofo.com/blog/oldest-domain-names/

I am the founder of Octopus Deploy - we have #52 on that list. It was first registered in the same year I was born!

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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Is this the same Symbolics that came out of the MIT AI lab? With the LISP machines?

Also creators of the crazy Space Cadet keyboard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard

Strictly speaking, the Space Cadet keyboard was JLK's creation (John L Kulp, who ran the MIT Plasma Labs computing facilities, and who went on to help found Symbolics when they split off from the AI Lab).

I had a Space Cadet on my desk in the EECS department along with a Plasma TV system monitor.

Had fun times hacking the PDP-11 software driving the Plasma TV system.

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also creators of the crazy Space Cadet keyboard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard

I wish they still made keyboards like that. I'm curious to know the "feel"

As gumby says, the Space Cadet keyboards, being Microswitch Hall effect-based, were a bit spongy due to the big plastic case, but the switches themselves were dreamy.

But the whole experience was still not as satisfying as the original Knight keyboards, I suspect because the Knight boards used the original, larger switches, while the Space Cadets used the smaller. Chyrosran22 on Youtube explains all this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdN4Vzg6_g and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDozftThFMw).

By the way, after 40 years of despairing over the loss of Hall effect switches (I nursed a Space Cadet Livermore Labs clone from a group buy for some years into the mid-80's), there are now two keyboards using this technology, and I'm loving the one that's actually available.

Steelseries Apex Pro is what's now shipping, and it's a dream. (https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Apex-Mechanical-Gaming-Ke...)

The Input Club Keystone is still coming, slowly (https://kono.store/products/keystone-analog-mechanical-keybo...), but I'm also really looking forward to trying it.

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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First-ever domain was registered in 1985. Many others were kept being registered since then. But what are the first used domains up to these days? 100 Oldest Domain Names & Their Current Status: https://dofo.com/blog/oldest-domain-names/

I am the founder of Octopus Deploy - we have #52 on that list. It was first registered in the same year I was born!

Wow, congrats!

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before the Internet there was Usenet and a world-wide network network of machines connected together via UUCP, doing email and such over point-to-point dialup (modem) links. Sending mail was a matter of knowing a complete path through the network from your source machine to the recipient's destination machine (and Usenet news implemented public discussion groups over this network). If I recall correctly, you could se…

That was still the Internet, it just wasn't the World Wide Web or modern (SMTP/POP3/IMAP) email.

No, that was a network, but it was very much not the Internet. Different technologies.

Per Wikipedia, "The Internet (portmanteau of interconnected network) is the global system of interconnected computer networks that uses the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP) to link devices worldwide."

The network of UUCP-connected machines (also called UUCPNET) did not use TCP/IP and had no inbuilt notion of how to get packets from one place to another. One had to specifically list a set of instructions, a path, from source to destination hosts. UUCPNET was entirely store-and-forward, and sent entire messages, not packets. And it was in wide use throughout the 80's before the Internet became a thing (which happened once researchers started interconnecting networks that used TCP/IP).

To say that UUCPNET was the Internet just without the web, is like saying that radio _is_ TV, just without the pictures.

Re: 35 years ago today: the first domain name symbolics.com was registered

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was still the Internet, it just wasn't the World Wide Web or modern (SMTP/POP3/IMAP) email.

No, that was a network, but it was very much not the Internet. Different technologies. Per Wikipedia, "The Internet (portmanteau of interconnected network) is the global system of interconnected computer networks that uses the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP) to link devices worldwide." The network of UUCP-connected machines (also called UUCPNET) did not use TCP/IP and had no inbuilt notion of how to get packets from…

This is quickly going to devolve into semantics, but just because the Internet today is built on TCP/IP doesn't mean that's a requirement to be considered "internet". An internet is just a WAN between LANs, and I don't think it matters what specific Layer 3/4 protocol you choose. ARPANET is widely acknowledged as the predecessor of what we today call "the Internet" and it predates TCP/IP.
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