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Any additional material on cgroups and namespaces?
I'd be interested in the next course on BPF and KVM.
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Not the op. But can I email you too? I’ve same condition.
Absolutely, same goes for anyone else who comes across this and is interested in kernel development.
Started getting into kernel stuff for work. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of market demand there is for kernel devs or similar skill sets? Being new to this I absolutely love it, but have no idea. The resources shared by everyone here are so helpful! I’ve been muddling through by reading the docs, source code, and various messages on the mailing list and... it’s been a little painful.
On the other hand, most developers and even some non-developers recognize that kernel development is hard. If you have a name in the kernel development world this will certainly help your reputation. Likewise, if you have a good knowledge of Linux this will certainly help you for certain job openings (kernel development is probably a great background for most low-level job entries).
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I pretty much agree with this. For example, the BSD Handbook and documentation is the point of call for a newbie entering into the community and the codebase is much more readable than the Linux kernel. Last time I checked, the kernel-newbies site doesn't seem to be beginner friendly and aside from following the IRC channel, the mailing list is still the way to do code reviews there, which is quite frankly pre-histor…
Prehistoric? It is actually how the Git workflow was designed to work, and it is a standard method that does not require third-party services nor tools. Just your mail agent. Sending patches is as easy as sending one in GitHub or any other web-based system. The problem is that you (and many others) have never done it, and so anything different is harder. You should consider that if learning a handful of CLI commands…
Its still prehistoric in projects like the Linux Kernel, from a beginners point of view compared to GitHub, Gerrit or GitLab, which most of the active contributors are already working at large companies who's work requires contributing to it, thus already have invested in time and money learning the contribution process. To look at the LKML and do code reviews via back and forth emails looks simple for a veteran Linux developer at a large company but very arcane for a student sending a patch to the kernel.
> The problem is that you (and many others) have never done it, and so anything different is harder.
Your assumption is quite funny here as I have done both and I can tell you that most of the beginners particularly students are introduced into open-source via GitHub or even GitLab these days and its used as a starting point into contributing to a OS project. IIRC, ReactOS and FreeBSD has retained more student contributors from Google Summer of Code than say GNU/Hurd, by both improving the contribution process for beginners. I still wouldn't recommend beginners to learn about OSes in general by contributing to the Linux kernel due to the above reasons. Project making contributions more accessible for beginners isn't a bad thing, its actually how they attract potential long term contributors to stay on, rather than to make things simple only for veteran developers.
> You should consider that if learning a handful of CLI commands is such a problem for you, perhaps it is not the system that is being unfriendly to you, but that you are unfriendly to learning anything else that is not your way.
There's my point, it is still beginner unfriendly. Beginners these days would start with Github or Gitlab with a GUI to send PRs to a different OS project and wouldn't bother learning tons of CLI commands to send a patch in a email + code reviews. It is therefore favours veteran developers at large companies who stay on being long term contributors than the old days of random Linux enthusiasts doing this, which I'm very surprised you don't see the contribution process prehistoric from a beginners eyes. Perhaps something needs to change...
Started getting into kernel stuff for work. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of market demand there is for kernel devs or similar skill sets? Being new to this I absolutely love it, but have no idea. The resources shared by everyone here are so helpful! I’ve been muddling through by reading the docs, source code, and various messages on the mailing list and... it’s been a little painful.
Started getting into kernel stuff for work. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of market demand there is for kernel devs or similar skill sets? Being new to this I absolutely love it, but have no idea. The resources shared by everyone here are so helpful! I’ve been muddling through by reading the docs, source code, and various messages on the mailing list and... it’s been a little painful.
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Prehistoric? It is actually how the Git workflow was designed to work, and it is a standard method that does not require third-party services nor tools. Just your mail agent. Sending patches is as easy as sending one in GitHub or any other web-based system. The problem is that you (and many others) have never done it, and so anything different is harder. You should consider that if learning a handful of CLI commands…
> Sending patches is as easy as sending one in GitHub or any other web-based system. Its still prehistoric in projects like the Linux Kernel, from a beginners point of view compared to GitHub, Gerrit or GitLab, which most of the active contributors are already working at large companies who's work requires contributing to it, thus already have invested in time and money learning the contribution process. To look at t…
And let's not start about learning the myriad of tools you gotta learn to do in professional Linux kernel development (or any kind of specialized development for that matter).
If you want to educate your students on being one more cog in the machine and make them complacent on learning the bare minimum, that's on you. I for sure wasn't taught like that.
Started getting into kernel stuff for work. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of market demand there is for kernel devs or similar skill sets? Being new to this I absolutely love it, but have no idea. The resources shared by everyone here are so helpful! I’ve been muddling through by reading the docs, source code, and various messages on the mailing list and... it’s been a little painful.
There are currently a few in AMD's website.
Started getting into kernel stuff for work. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of market demand there is for kernel devs or similar skill sets? Being new to this I absolutely love it, but have no idea. The resources shared by everyone here are so helpful! I’ve been muddling through by reading the docs, source code, and various messages on the mailing list and... it’s been a little painful.
Started getting into kernel stuff for work. Does anyone have a good idea what kind of market demand there is for kernel devs or similar skill sets? Being new to this I absolutely love it, but have no idea. The resources shared by everyone here are so helpful! I’ve been muddling through by reading the docs, source code, and various messages on the mailing list and... it’s been a little painful.