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Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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Throwing a "This app wants to send you notifications" dialog as soon as you launch an app for the first time, should be banned.

Interestingly, I run exactly this in one of my apps. A lot of users never actually figure out my app has notifications, but I sleep a lot better at night knowing that I'm not annoying people with prompts.

Why don’t you do it the first time they access a feature related to notifications?

Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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How about Apple bring down the hammer on apps that are abusing notifications right now (or you just uninstall them), instead of allowing ways to shove more ads into peoples eyeballs. There is no scenario where this is a benefit to the consumer.

While I mostly agree that this would be abused, I disagree that there's no scenario where this is beneficial.

It's like email updates from online retailers. I unsubscribe from the majority of them, but I allow a couple of retailers I like to send me promotions.

Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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Interestingly, I run exactly this in one of my apps. A lot of users never actually figure out my app has notifications, but I sleep a lot better at night knowing that I'm not annoying people with prompts.

Why don’t you do it the first time they access a feature related to notifications?

That is indeed exactly when I present the alert: when they enable notifications from settings.

Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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post #30

Throwing a "This app wants to send you notifications" dialog as soon as you launch an app for the first time, should be banned.

Then you have to ban iOS, because it's the system that throws that notification if you run an app that has notifications in its capabilities list.

That’s completely inaccurate, the dialog only shows once the app requests the permission.

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Then you have to ban iOS, because it's the system that throws that notification if you run an app that has notifications in its capabilities list.

That’s completely inaccurate, the dialog only shows once the app requests the permission.

The app checks for notifications authorization on every startup, and the system checks it against stored user settings. To establish the user settings initially, the system pops up the dialog the first time you run an app with notification capabilities.

Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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Does iOS have notification channels like Android? So you can disable the ads and keep other notifications from one app?

Right now there is only one notification channel.

And indeed, the plan seems to separate ads and genuine notifications into two channels, similar to what Android apparently currently has (not an Android user).

You can then decide which channel should be enabled.

Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

#38
From what I understand is that this an actual step in the right direction as Apple is formalizing how users get these ad-notifications.

> The new rules will only permit sending push advertisements to users if they agree to it. Users must also be able to opt-out of the ads whenever they want.

With their growing policy on advertising, tracking and privacy I think they will move towards not allowing advertorial push notifications unless an user allows.

Re: Apple now allows iOS developers to send ads using push notifications

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post #33
post #18

How about Apple bring down the hammer on apps that are abusing notifications right now (or you just uninstall them), instead of allowing ways to shove more ads into peoples eyeballs. There is no scenario where this is a benefit to the consumer.

While I mostly agree that this would be abused, I disagree that there's no scenario where this is beneficial. It's like email updates from online retailers. I unsubscribe from the majority of them, but I allow a couple of retailers I like to send me promotions.

> It's like email updates from online retailers. I unsubscribe from the majority of them, but I allow a couple of retailers I like to send me promotions.

Notifications are for when you need to know about something immediately and it's okay to interrupt you for it. How many of these retailers do you want that from? What's the benefit for the end-user over an email?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s completely inaccurate, the dialog only shows once the app requests the permission.

The app checks for notifications authorization on every startup, and the system checks it against stored user settings. To establish the user settings initially, the system pops up the dialog the first time you run an app with notification capabilities.

Saner apps defer the notification prompt till later, even if it's during onboarding after showing an explanatory panel first etc.
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