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Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#32I'm retired and mostly not in the market. I won't invest in the market while it is overpriced. With such low interest rates, what is a safe investment?
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#33This will further increase housing prices, no? How much more unobtainable for the average American could they possibly get? I suppose negative interest rates will let us know shortly!
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#34We're basically running out of tools to combat an actual financial crisis. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/liquiditytrap.asp
Not really. This was extensively explored following the Great Depression, in part by Ben Bernanke, which is how we got QE. In summary, the Fed can buy more than just short-dated government bonds.
Moreover, "liquidity trap" doesn't refer to the central bank running out of tools per se. It refers to investors calling a central bank's bluff.
A classic example is a stagflation-facing central bank cutting rates. The cut spurs inflation. Investors figure that will force the central bank's hand into a rate hike shortly. As a result, they hold.
The cut thus fails to have an impact because the bank is perceived to be constrained. That doesn't apply here.
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#35The Fed does not keep interest rates low in a vacuum. There is an auction system that determines real rates. If the Fed is not able to sell all their bonds at the target rate, they have to adjust.
In the long run, I think we will see:
1. (at risk of calling this bull market a "new normal") P/E ratios for stock will continue to climb in a secular fashion. Low returns from the alternative investment of bonds will dictate high P/E ratios.
2. Debt financing will remain cheap. Low interest rates signal cash that is desperate to find a place to park it.
3. Government debt will remain popular and affordable. This is a win for Keynesians.
4. Secular low interest rates are an indicator of a stable and mature economy, which is good. The bad part is that they signal a world where obvious available capital investment projects are missing- we seem to have picked the low hanging fruit.
5. Next recession the U.S. will hit the zero lower bound, and we will see lots of QE and/or nominal negative interest rates through some institutional mechanism.
6. Increasing government deficits look better when interest rates are low.
7. Speculative: Deficit spending can increase indefinitely if real interest rates are below 0 (aka nominal rates are below inflation). To put it in other terms: Any deficit spending is free money up until the point that it causes inflation to rise about the nominal interest rate.
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#36Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#373-2-1, bull market returns. (I hope)
Why? Are you retired? Because if you aren't, if you're working and putting money into a retirement plan, you are much better off with a bear market, especially one like this that is practically guaranteed not to run for years. When you're a buyer you want prices to be low.
If stock prices are permanently lower as a result, though, it's certainly not good for you. And, believe it or not, this is probably the more accepted idea -- that price movements are memoryless, that we shouldn't subscribe to the gamblers fallacy (that down today means up tomorrow), and that being happy for a price drop is a form of timing the market, which is frowned upon.
I don't fully buy it, but it's worth thinking about.
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#38We're basically running out of tools to combat an actual financial crisis. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/liquiditytrap.asp
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#39We're basically running out of tools to combat an actual financial crisis. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/liquiditytrap.asp
Re: Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus
#40I can't tell if they've just not yet updated that page.
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